Thread: The Scouring of the Shire: Fan Film?
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I agree that the Scouring could be a stand-alone short film. Though realistically it would would have to be a fan film production. In which case the producers could petition some of the original actors to donate their time and participate (as has been done in some Star Trek fan-films). Or it could be done with some look-a-like actors.
Only problem I see (besides getting it done, getting permission etc- but we can hope and dream) is that the scouring contradicts what PJ did in his films- so they might not be keen to help out. Whilst it could be done stand alone it could not be done in its entirety as Saruman is central to the goings on.
However no need for despair Tin. I would suggest starting with a shortened version of the Hobbits arriving back and meeting the Sheriffs and cover the story as far as the battle where Merry and Pippin lure the men into the gully. Its a good fight and the good guys win. End it there- thus not changing what Tolkien wrote but simply not telling the bit about Saruman that comes afterward. That way we don't tread on PJ's toes even though its his bloody fault he cocked up the story originally in his films.
NB Is there are a MOST RECENT POSTS on this new manifestation of the Forum? (Don't like this new one much, truth be known. Can we go back to the one before last?)
And as to the whole Saruman bit, I think it should be included. After all, we're already contradicting PJ's version by making that section a film anyway. And quite frankly, I think he'd be up for it. PJ did say that he wanted to put in the scourging, but there wasn't any room for it. People already complained about it's million endings anyway, so he made an ending just as bittersweet as the scourging (in a way). And it really could be done, PJ and friends willing, if we wrote a script, came up with some money, and found actors, directors ect. in NZ that would want to try and pull it off. We don't need any returning actors, just the set
BTW, would this work better as an unofficial sequel of sorts to ROTK? Note that in the theatrical edition Saruman doesn't die at Orthanc so you'd only have to disregard the last few minutes (or, alternatively, insert it into the film and suppose that the last scenes in the Shire all occurred post-Scouring).
great as well. (if and when its made) Wouldnt have mattered who made lotr we all would have whinged about something in it we didnt like. Watch and enjoy or dont watch. simple.
PS. Love the new set up (forum) your doing [color=#008000:2v5ktgj2]GB[/color:2v5ktgj2]
As to 'watch and enjoy or don't watch. Simple.'- I came up with an alternative- I took my copies through an editorial process and rejigged them to remove the stuff I just couldn't watch. Even then enjoy is stretching it a bit, I'd say they were now bearable. (Looks wise I love them-Rohan and Dead Marshes aside- they look terrible and PJ's mad idea of the Uruk-Hai becoming genetically unstable, that was really, really poor-fortunately Gothmog was easy to remove in the editorial process, or at least a lot easier than other stuff was). Its the scripts I really hate more than anything else.
To get back on topic where Tin did you envision your fan film beginning? With the four hobbits entering the Shire or at the parting with Gandalf?
I don't think we have any die-hard film-bashers here. I used to think that petty was one but lately I've started to suspect that he's more of a softie than he lets on.
But as to the beginning, I was thinking even before the parting, where they run into Saruman. I really like the pipe weed bit with Merry and Saruman
Could have used it for a few films i'v watched lately.
How much were the films shortened ?
You got me thinking (witch is unusual for me)
All of them have less action than PJ's, troll scene is shorter, took out the crumbly staircase in Moria, without the elves at Helms Deep its a lot shorter (but better for it I think) and made the Pelennor less silly by taking out Legolas stuff and just trimming it down a bit (such as taking out the bit where Eowyn takes a Mumikal down on her own).
Tin suppose it could be possible without really showing much to imply the elves are with them. If your planning on it being in the PJ style then a few of the banners the elves seem to go everywhere with and some pastel coloured robes should do the trick. Amazing what people will think they have seen even when you only give them a few subtle shots.
Big it up for Petty's edited version.