Miruvor Posted Sunday 17th July 2005 (02:19pm)
"(but Gitara Moroso Foretold the birth of the Dragon Reborn!)"
That wasn't really foretelling now, was it ? Wasn't that the chick who cried out "the dragon is born." or something in the like, when Shaiel gave birth to him on the Dragon mountain?
I could be wrong, of course.
Maybe we should make a WOT thread somewhere.
It is done.
Yeah, I though about that even as I was writing it. It wasn't a foretelling, but it was a Foretelling, technically, since it was the way she found out. Maybe she had some kind of other Talent that manifested then and showed her, but I doubt it. We don't really see her anywhere but New Spring so only her hairdresser (Jordan) knows for sure. I just couldn't resist when I saw that capital Foretell, especially since he makes such a big deal about Elaida being the first Aes Sedai with the Foretelling since Gitara. Gitara had the advantage of not being as big a female dog though (how can I know that you ask? 'Cos Elaida's unsurpassable, though Sevanna comes close.)
I'd show up for a WoT thread in Non-Tolkien Books (assuming I could consistently find it.) I get a blank screen when I try to do anything at Dragonmount, and wotmania seems more interested in tallking about anything but WoT (posted a lot there yesterday, but I don't go there to debate theology, however willing I always am to do that.) We'd have to excercise some care though since it's in progres, and not everyone reads/has time to read at the same rate. I've heard rumors the Committee to Sell Grondy On WoT is making progress, and I'd feel like a real heel if I ruined it for him, or anyone else. I, of course, well likely have finished KoD by dawn the day after it comes out. And then it's only two years 'til the next one!
Posted Monday 18th July 2005 (07:35pm)
We'd have to excercise some care though since it's in progres, and not everyone reads/has time to read at the same rate. I've heard rumors the Committee to Sell Grondy On WoT is making progress, and I'd feel like a real heel if I ruined it for him, or anyone else. I, of course, well likely have finished KoD by dawn the day after it comes out. And then it's only two years 'til the next one!
Well i've only read the first 7 books, as my library can't be bothered with ordering the next 3.... [NEW POSTERS PLEASE BEAR THIS IN MIND, AS MY PROMISE OF SENDING YOU MY DOGS "PRESENTS" IN THE MAIL IF YOU POST ON KoD BEFORE I'VE READ IT.]
i don't really dislike Elaida, for some reason... you're very right about Sevanna though, to me she's prolly the biggest female dog in the book, although i dislike that Seanchan chick Suroth (sp?) and also Semirhage almost as much.
Well maybe it's just me but i found most female characters becoming more and more annoying as the number of books increases, safe Nynaeve : i'm actually liking her now. Faile (expect Perrin to get a heartache), Elayne and Egwene really start to get on their high horse.
Of course, most Aes Sedai are a pain in the arse anyway, safe Moiraine and Siuan (sp?) Sanche.
The thing i really like bout WOT is that in the beginning of each book, we get to know that every baddie/faction makes his or her own plans to use the Dragon for their own plans, but in the end it always backfires and it's the Dragon who's in control.
I think you're right about Siuan, though I always wanna switch the i and the u, so don't quote me. And it ain't just the Dragon, nothing goes the way it's planned by ANYONE in WoT.
Posted Tuesday 19th July 2005 (12:15am)
The consensus is you haven't missed much; I fear a WoT thread will have a lot of "how come nothing in happens in the last books? How can he write so much and say so little?" This despite the fact that I can think of three huge events that have taken place in them, one each at the ending. I may have to promote Sevanna past Elaida; at least the latter has good intentions (but you know what they say...) She's just soooo sure she knows best, and people like that leave a mounds of debris in their wake. Mind, there is one individual I'll enjoy seeing her destroy, if someone else doesn't beat her to it.
Nynaeve actually gets on my nerves occasionally doing all the stuff for which she kills other people. Even in that case though, I'm certainly not one of the "All female WoT characters must die!" people (yeah, there's not only some, there's lots based on what I found when I recently started hitting those boards, at least it seems that way when anyone feels like staying on topic like we're doing.) But there's no accounting for taste; I think Elayne's the pick of the litter (or maybe Alanna, I haven't decided yet.) That may be 'cos I have a thing for leggy blondes.
I saw someone mention getting WH at from the bargain books section of a store for five bucks on there yesterday (I'm assuming hardback or why brag?) and someone else mentioned getting the paperback for, um, I think it was sixty-five cents. When I first hit Milwaukee I had three WoT paperbacks and a desperate need for work, so I hit lots of bookstores looking for a job. Didn't get that, but I did find place that had used copies of all of 'em (five at the time) and got the series for under twenty bucks, including hardbacks of three, four, and five. I'm not sure where you are, but if you have a Half Price Books go there first (and bring anything you don't read, 'cos they'll buy it.) One of the few good things about living in Austin is they're based here so we have nine, but they're NEVER hiring 'cos they give sales associates stock and no one wants to leave 'cos the benefits are so good.
There's like three threads in the Non-Tolkien section so I'm thinking of a "WoT, no spoilers, please" and a "WoT anything before KoD" [would be separate, but I don't want to further provoke the mods just yet.](I DO NOT want anyone ruining that for me.)
I'm torn between the desire not to waste bandwidth and the desire to increase my posts, but, again, the latter doesn't currently seem to matter.
The connection between Gondilon and Gitara is 1) I'm obsessed with both, and 2) more significantly in this case I was comparing the foretelling of Eol that Maeglin would betray those closest him and be cast from the walls as Eol was about be to the Foretelling Talent possessed by a very few Aes Sedai. We have, however, wandered a tad far astray, I'm just too shy to start that (those? the real reason I'm hesitating) WoT thread in Non-Tolkien Books.
Posted Monday 18th July 2005 (11:47pm)
Tell me again what the Wheel of Time series has to do with "Turgon, King of Gondolin"?
To explain how this all started, in the Turgon thread in Characters I made the comparison in the first line with the Foretelling by Eol that a) Meaglin would betray those closest him, and b) be cast from the wall as Eol was about to be. We got a little off topic from there. (I sure hope I did this right. Update: YEA!)