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Ok. I have received answers from three people. I think that's not enough to conclude this quiz, because two out of those three didn't get the chance to ponder long enough over the keywords apparently. So, I have once more decided to give you some extra time.

Well, some, I give you another month, so that means you have until March 31 to send me your answers. Those of you who still wish to send in the keywords as well, please do. Otherwise I'll just give you your score on 100 instead of on 140.

Good luck!

I found the quiz and maybe, just maybe will have a go. Can you explain the keywords please?
Tommie's previous explaination of the keywords was....

Let me explain the KEYWORD questions again:

There are 100 "ordinary" questions. Below every group of 5 questions you see the word "KEYWORD". The answers to the five questions above that word will lead to a "keyword", a term that is related to all five answers. In other words, when you have solved 5 questions, you need to look for a word (it can be anything really, a person, an object, a river, a region, etc.) that is related to all 5 answers. If it's not clear, email me and I'll try to explain again.

Basically, the keywords are common denominators for the five answers preceeding them.
Yes, thank you Val. That's exactly what I was trying to say, except you are more clear. I always have trouble explaining myself. Oh well. Cool Smilie

Please do have a go, if you haven't finished it by the "deadline", feel free to send it in later, I will still correct it for you. Big Smile Smilie
*Bugyfeanor impatiently awaits for the answers*

Oh, I should've made that patiently and at peace! Well, too late...
Big Smile Smilie You did very well, Bugy, no need to worry. Tongue Smilie

Anyone else still working on it, or... Oh well. I'll just have to wait, just like everybody else. *sigh* Animated Wink Smilie
Actually, my friend and I have all the easy ones done! It's the keyword parts that are difficult (obviously). Some of these are so different that we can't piece it all together. But I guess that's the challenge.
That should be the challenge, because most of the other questions are fairly easy. Problem with the keyword questions is that sometimes you see links that I didn't see. We'll see... Animated Wink Smilie
*Bugy's counting the days: 9,8,7, ...*

No, I am not impatient! I can wait!

*Bugy goes on counting: 6,5,4,3...*

Still haven't had any answers in, other than the ones I had in before the previous deadline. *goes on waiting patiently*
I should be sending it soon, after I solve a particularly vexing question. Smile Smilie

Yerrm. I thought you had sent in yours already, Arco? Or do you mean the questions you hadn't solved yet? Paranoid Smilie
I keep meaning to look at it.......

Good intentions...... oh look the road to hell......
Isnt that a dodgy quote from Chris Rhea (Rea, or whatever)... that guys dusty isnt he, pushing up musical daisies, i dont mean HE's dead, just his music. lol

Vee, i though you'd be into the Venga-boys or summat?

Tongue Smilie
I mean the unanswered questions and keywords, Tommie Smile Smilie
Good. You nearly got me there! Tongue Smilie
Well, the deadline has passed and I haven't received any additional answers.

For those of you who have sent in their answers, you can still send me the answers to keywords or any previously unsolved questions.

I will try to put up the answers and the hall of fame as soon as possible, but it will be some time still. Cool Smilie
Sorry it took me so long, thanks for all your patience, and finally here are the answers I was looking for:

1. Eru
2. Avallonë
3. Númenor
4. Isle of Almaren
5. Pillars of the Kings
KEYWORD: Meneltarma
6. Oromë
7. Silmarils
8. Ezellohar
9. (the Ancient, Outer, Timeless) Darkness, the Everlasting Dark, the Nothingness, the Void
10. Avathar
KEYWORD: Ungoliant
11. Rivendell
12. Éomer
13. Umbar
14. Palantír
15. Bree
KEYWORD: Aragorn II, son of Arathorn
16. Shadowfax
17. Léod
18. Isildur’s Bane
19. Fathers of Men, Elf-friends, Atanatári, Men of the Three Houses (I was looking for the first answer, since Felaróf was the "father" of the Mearas)
20. Valinor
KEYWORD: Felaróf
21. Friend
22. Galadriel
23. Glittering Caves
24. Mithril
25. Erebor
KEYWORD: Gimli, son of Glóin
26. Vingilot
27. Thangorodrim
28. Smaug
29. Wings
30. The Black Stone
KEYWORD: Ancalagon
31. Rohan
32. Fangorn
33. Anduin
34. Meriadoc (Merry) Brandybuck
35. Limlight
KEYWORD: Entwash
36. Noldor
37. Middle-Earth
38. Turgon
39. Isildur
40. Barad-dûr
KEYWORD: Gil-Galad
41. Círdan
42. Dol Guldur
43. Isengard
44. Elrond, Elros (I was looking for Elrond)
45. Eldar
KEYWORD: White Council
46. Elwë, Ingwë, Finwë (I was looking for Elwë)
47. Beleg
48. Flame of the West, the Sword that was broken, the Sword reforged (the clue to the keyword was in “flame”)
49. Galvorn
50. Menegroth
KEYWORD: Anglachel
51. Gondor
52. Castamir
53. Umbar
54. King of Gondor, King of Men, Faithful, Elendili, Elf-friends ("King" was the clue to the keyword)
55. Narmacil II
KEYWORD: Telumehtar Umbardacil
56. Azog
57. Nanduhirion, Azanulbizar
58. Fundin
59. Naín
60. War of Wrath, the Great Battle
KEYWORD: Battle of Azanulbizar
61. Thráin I
62. Bilbo Baggins
63. Battle of Five Armies
64. Longbeards
65. Grey Mountains
KEYWORD: the Arkenstone
66. Valar
67. Ar-Pharazôn
68. Mortals
69. White Ship
70. Avallónë
KEYWORD: the Undying Lands, Aman, the Deathless Lands
71. Three-farthing stone
72. The Floating Log
73. Shirriffs, Bounders
74. The Marish
75. Saruman
KEYWORD: Frogmorton
76. Beleriand
77. Nienor
78. Battle of Unnumbered tears, the Nirnaeth Arnoediad
79. Tale of Years
80. Lay of Leithian
KEYWORD: Narn i Hîn Húrin, Tale of the Children of Húrin
81. Dol Amroth
82. King under the Mountain
83. River Ringló
84. Sindarin
85. Alqualondë, Haven of the Swans
86. Cirith Ungol
87. Lightfoot
88. Gift of Men
89. Shelob
90. Nenya
KEYWORD: Phial of Galadriel
91. The Shire
92. Baranduin, Brandywine
93. Gerontius Took
94. Belthronding
95. Seven
KEYWORD: Gorbadoc Brandybuck
96. Scatha
97. Boromir
98. Éowyn
99. Mark
100. The Scouring of the Shire
KEYWORD: Horn of the Mark

Hall of fame

Bugyfeanor: 94/100, 35/40 -> 129/140
Arco: 95/100, 18/40 -> 113/140
Grondy: 91/100

Arco didn't have the chance to answer all the keywords, the ones he did answer were correct though.
Grondy didn't have the chance to answer the keywords at all. Tongue Smilie

Thanks for doing my quiz, hope you enjoyed it!

On to the next one then, I guess!
Anyone want to make us another quiz Question Smilie

The length should be from about 20 to 100 questions long and they should come from only The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, The Silmarillion, and maybe the Unfinished Tales with a note at the beginning if the latter is used as a source.

Give the membership a month to complete it, unless it is a long one, in which case maybe it could be a Summer Quiz with the deadline being the first of September.
I have a little idea for another quiz, but I won't get that one up before September. And that's at the earliest, because if I'm going to Minsk, it will be even later. Anyway, if you have a new quiz, just post it! Thumbs Up Smilie
Could we make a separate area for the Quiz?

It is getting unmanageable to look for a new quiz through 38+ pages of posts. Let's have a central Quiz area with whatever specifics are needed...due date, who to send it to, and we can maybe set up a difficulty ladders for different levels (some are just LOTR, some add Sil., some more add UT, etc.)

Just a thought.

Any others,
Be nice to have some mini quizzes whilst waiting for the big one, like 10 questions and the first one to get all the answers right takes the lead and gets to set hi/her next 10 questions?

So in the meantime, if anyone wants to join in, feel free - here's my ten questions

1.This place was founded by Elendil in the year of 3520 in the 2nd age?
2. This is a village in Bree where both Men and Hobbits live together in peace?
3. Bilbo leant his vest of Mithril to this place to put on display?
4. This place has sides so steep that neither Men, Dwarves or Elves have ever set foot on it?
5. In Sindarin, this name means SNOW-POINT?
6. Crafted by the Noldor in Amon, these are unbreakable spheres of crystal?
7. The spheres number 8, the Master Stone was kept in Tol Eressa but where were the other 7 to be found? (clue, 4 could be found in the land of Gondor, 3 in the land of Arnor)
8. Aragorn and Arwen's marriage was one of 3 known unions between Men and Elves, who were the other 2?
9. Son of Beregond, Pippin's guide in Minas Tirith?
10. King of the Teleri Elves, lives within Alqualonde?
Could we make a separate area for the Quiz?

This is a very good suggestion and one that has a good possibility of implementation. Smile Smilie

. Minas Ithil,
2. Bree,
3. Mathom-house,
4. Tindrock,
5. Caradhras(?),
6. The Palantiri (?),
7. Osgiliath, Amon Sûl, Minas Ithil, Annúminas, Elostirion, Minas Anor and ofcourse Orthanc,
8. Alliance between Men and Elves (?) and the love of Beren and Lúthien,
9. Bergil,
10. Olwë.

Gildor has sent me his answers for my quiz, here are his results (you can answer them here saves on Mithril):-

1. - No
2. - Half right, its in Bree
3. - Correct
4. - Yes
5. - No
6. - Correct
7. - Correct
8. - You got 1 pair, but who were the others?
9. - Correct
10. - Correct
1. Minas Tirith
2. Staddle?
3. Mathom-house
4. the Tindrock (a.k.a. Tol Brandir)
5. Aeglos
6. The palantíri (were made by Fëanor in Tirion)
7. Minas Ithil, Minas Anor, Osgiliath, Amon Sûl, Annúminas, Orthanc, and the Elendil Stone on Elostirion in the Emyn Beraid. Sauron took the Ithil-stone to Barad-dûr, Denethor had the Anor stone, the next three were lost with Arvedui, the Orthanc-stone came to Aragorn, and the Elendil-stone was taken on the White Ship to Aman.
8. Beren and Lúthien, Tuor and Idril
9. Bergil
10. Olwë
Gildor got number 4 correct, my goof, sorry about that, I blame the mini heatwaves hitting Wales at the moment Smile Smilie

Arcormacolindóva has correctly answered all of the questions except for Number 1

So, here's a clue for you to help you along:-

At its greatest extent it encompassed almost all of the lands between The Misty Mountains in the East and Ered Luin (the Blue Mountains) in the West
Then 1 should be Arnor...
Correct, Gildor gets the Mastermind Shiny Bauble!!
I think number 8 is too restrictive. There were three known unions of the Eldar and the Edain (correctly given by Gildor). But I think it is implied that there were other unions between the races (no doubt very rare).Note the references to Prince Imrahil possibly having Elvish blood from a pilgramage of Elves from Lothlorien (Legolas sings of their journey in the FOTR) to the mouth of Anduin. In fact, I'm not sure that it isn't more a matter that there were three known unions between the royal houses of the Eldar and the Edain.
i have not come across this in any of the books i have read but in Morgoths ring, Peoples of ME, Sauron defeated or War of the jewels, is there a chance of a union of races other than Man and Elf?
probably not but i thought i'd ask anyway actually i am 99% sure that there isnt so this is more a verification that there wasnt than a question of if there was.
Well, technically Melian and Thingol would be one such (and I believe Brandir was supposed to be half elven, too, but I may be mixing LT2 with the Silmarillion here, and most folks don't like that) but I'm assuming you mean human/demi-human not human demi-god (or cherub, as the case may be.) Also getting hypertechnical, if Aragorn, descendant of Elros, and Arwens, daughter of Elrond, union counts as mortal/elven then presumably that of Earendil and Elwing should also. While he may have deferred the choice for both of them to her, their blood, like that of their descendants Arwen and Aragorn, was of both (for those just now considering this relationship I think marriage to ones first cousin thirty odd times removed is OK, but don't quote me.)

Well, I reread the Silmarillion week before last, and, true to my word, decided to go back and read Tinuviel and Turambar from LT2 instead of being a "Gondolin junky." I couldn't understand why I couldn't find anything on Brandirs half-Elven lineage in the Silmarillion. Until, that is, I got back to the LT2 version, where I found my worst fears confirmed: it was in THAT version that Brandir (here going by Tamar, but still lame) had a Noldorin/Gnomish mother. All I can say is, "Pick a $##%@! narrative and stick with it!"

On the other hand, it's still better than calling Celebrimbor "Curufinwe" like I'm wont to do ("Pick a @#$$$@! name and stick with it!") in another post I can no longer find. Yes, Curufinwe was Feanor, and I really did know that, but for some reason I try to make him sing Homer and Jethros "I'm My Own Grampa."
is there a chance of a union of races other than Man and Elf?

Do you mean by this a mixed union other than Elf-Man, Elrose? If so Saruman's breeding of half orcs from a union of Uruk and Man would count.
Sauron's Olog-hai may also fit this mold; though Appendix F to LotR says " from what stock is unknown." The Olog-hai were giant trolls that were immune from sunshine paralysis.
darn my memory. i read that all before..not that that matters...will there be another quiz?
Only if someone wants to build another one.

There is a Trivia Quiz game in our #Bilbos study chatroom, but I suppose those questions have become stale with the passage of time. If anyone wants to add some new ones for the chatroom, send them to Vee or Rednell and they will try to have them incorporated.
i guess i will make a quiz though it will not be as good...
well, here it is. i got 36 questions. email the answers to barlipoe@gmail.com or private message them to me.

1.what is the Standing Silence
2.What is the Springle-ring
3. where is the Springle-ring most common?
4.what language is "Daro"
5.what does it mean?
6.who is named Carc?
7.what is Carc's race?
8.Carc is whose father?
9.what is Borgil?
10.what was the last (known) Dain number?
11.what was the origanal spelling of Quenya?
12.what is the Quenya word for Middle-Earth
13.what is an Entyd?
14.of what Elvish house is Glorfiendel?
15.who bore Theodens banner at Pelanor fields?
16.what is the Kine of Araw?
17.who was the third king of Arthedain?
18.what elf clossed his door in the face of a Vala?
19.who was that Vala?
20.whose 'shields were shining as the moon'?
21.whose 'lances keen of steel were hewn'?
22.who said "rede oft is found at the rising of the sun"?
23.who convinced the herald of Manwe with his voice?
24.who said "thou art mad" to his father?
25.who wished for a time machine?
26.what is Mandos talking about when he says "not the first"?
27.what hound can speak 3 times?
28.who said "its out of his own head, of course."?
29.who was he talking about?
30.which of the 4 hobbits had the best hearing?
31.who is the first elf to be in Middle-Earth?
32.who could see the best in the dark in the Fellowship? (excluding Gandalf)
33.whose shining shield was scoured with runes?
35.who said "it is not easy for us to distinguish between to mortals"?
36.who said "well, let us go have lunch then"?

there it is. have fun (sorry if the questions are to easy or to hard or horrible)
YEA! Talk about good timing; I just happened to pop in here 'cos it's one of several spots I've got book marked on PT. I finally get to embarrass myself. I'm gonna double check for a time limit since I didn't see one, but I'm guessing not more than a month. Hopefully at least a couple weeks though (I don't have a printer handy so I'll have to do some fancy foot work.)
Val said:
Do you mean by this a mixed union other than Elf-Man, Elrose? If so Saruman's breeding of half orcs from a union of Uruk and Man would count.

Now there's another interesting question, how on earth did this cross-breeding take place? Was it like a scientific experiment (meaning non-sexual breeding)? Were there females involved? Which leads to the next question -- are there any female orcs (are they like dwarf women)? Was the breeding forced if it was sexual breeding (for I couldn't necessarily see orcs and men wanting to breed)?
Well, if we're going with the "orcs are perverted elves" theory, which I guess most of us are since that's what the Silmarillion says, then it works the same was as half-elves work, though I don't doubt it was forced (who but an orc would willingly breed with an orc.) All things considered I'd think it was probably male orc+female human, though I don't really wanna think about it further than that.

There had to be orc women though, since THEY weren't grown from stone (though, come to that, neither were dwerrows.) Now, whether they were any more distinguishable from orc men than dwarven women were from dwarven men I have no idea. I envision it like it's portrayed in "A Day in the Life of an Orc" in fan fiction; orc women existed in one capacity, since "Love" seems like it would be a challenging concept for any orc. Speaking of which, it was just the once, and while there was enough for two, it was all in one. Oh, well.
a time limit....Sep. 1 is good?
Works for me; maybe I can get a nice Psuedo-Silmaril for my birthday. To tide me over 'til KoD. I'm still waiting for you to tell me who you suspect of being Black Ajah so my thread doesn't die, btw. I've only started one thread and I'm very protective of it.
how are we all doing?
I still have two that are probably going to remain unanswered. I'm pretty confident about the others; however, I've been known to misread questions in the past, so I probably have given the right answer to the unasked question one or three times. Elf Sticking Tounge Out Smilie
well i guess it is Aug 31 but i'll put the answers up any way...Díneniel got 5 right and Bugyfeanor got thirty something right.....do you guys need more time? or is my test thing that lame....?? hahaha
Elrose: Did you get my email of approximately 25 AUG 2005 with my answers, or should I resend them to you via PM?
Bugy Feanor WINS! yay if you want me to post the answers i will within 2 or 3 days.
hold on....i check mail and it is not there, pm me please
Have just sent them by PM.
and Grondy wins with 35 right!
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