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Can't stand the Hobbit, way too nice and cheesey and yuk!
Thats the right description Plastic!
I'll use your excuse then Plastic, just substitute 'the Hobbit' for 'HP movie':

...but I loved the Harry potter movie just cos it was so corny and nice. Not too taxing and just what you need when you're feeling down.
I have to agrree with Plastic - its too simple for us 'adults', uuh. But at least it gives us some background for LOTR.

Now my next mission, if I've spare $$ for the Silma - then we'll get the whole picture.
Well zza, even LotR is a simple children's fantasy (for 10-15 year olds perhaps?), if you think about it. It's just that adults seem to like it. I like the Hobbit because it is simple and delightful - written for all children from the ages of 5 to 55. Smile Smilie
Very good point Golly, I s'pose I do read the Hobbit when I'm in one of my *interesting* moods. (Well I did before I got hold of Harry anyway, sorry people). Nice when you need to be 7 years old again.
The Hobbit is a good book and it isn't childish exept for people who try to prove how old and wise they are.

But still it cannot be compared with TLotR - it is a work of another level!
Fair point Mirkgirl, I hang my head in shame, welcome to the Forum by the way, and well done on bringing me down a peg or two Wink Smilie
I guess it all depends on your mood. Sometimes I prefer LotR, sometimes I'd rather read Silm, and sometimes the Hobbit. It really makes no difference to me since I love 'em all. Smile Smilie
Welcome Mirkgirl. Smile Smilie

I like the Hobbit because it is like a fairy tale, its linear, you don't have to know anything else about the world in which it takes place.

Of course for the opposite reason I like LOTR because you can delve into Middle Earth's history.

I usually start over with The Hobbit, but think next time I will jump into the middle of The Silmarilion and read about Nemenor.

It all comes down to individual taste - at least we have class. Some people don't even know the postAuthorID - even after I told them he wrote LOTR.

What makes books fun is we can be all grown up even though we're a child by reading quite a 'heavy' book - and even better we can go back to our childhood.

I have in my library one of my first books- Winnie the Pooh and Mother Goose which I still open. Just got the Treasury of Paddington Bear and now trying to get hold of The Phantom Tollbooth.

Books to me will always be magical - they transport you to different places and time, no matter how old you're are.
The Phantom Tollbooth was a great book, even the cartoon movie was fun. I first read the book some thirty years ago as part of my County Library's old Mythopeaic Society Group. Haven't any idea who wrote it. My favorite charachter was the watchdog.

I'm now working my way again through Lloyd Alexander's Prydain Chronicles (five Taran books) in which a few of the elements and characters of the Mabinogion are to be found. However, the books are not a retelling of the Welsh myths, but rather are a separate story about the Assistant Pig-Keeper, Taran and all his companions and their adventures on the way to his becoming (I think) the High King. Cool Smilie
I must admit that I still have my adventures of Professor Branestawm, 4 or 5 Paddington Bear books, 3 Doctor Doolittle books, the Charlie books of Roald Dahl, and a shed load of other books I've had since I was about 5. Occasionally I get them out still, but if you ever came to my house you would see I only have my "clever" books out on display. Big Smile Smilie
I adore the Phantom Tollbooth...I've hung on to all of my Berenstien Bear books, my 365 Bedtime Stories, the whole Redwall series, and all the Anne of Green Gables always puts me in a really good mood going back and reading through any of those... I just recently rediscovered all the Laura Ingall Wilder books Big Smile Smilie
I remember the Laura Ingall Wilder books, my third grade teacher, Mrs. Gray started reading the Little House books to us in the first 15 minutes after lunch back in 1948. Mrs Wilder even answered our class letter. Cool Smilie

I thought the TV series was rather ho-hum maybe that was because Little Joe could never filled my vision of Pa Ingles.
Its wonderful to hear that each have their own fave books.
*withstupid* (the emo's are always gone when you need them) Smile Smilie

I loved the Hobbit, cos that was the book that made me read LOTR in the first place. I like it because it's light reading, it's an easy story, and a nice one as well. But as Mirkgirl (welcome, btw) said, you can't compare the two, cos they're too different. Smile Smilie

What are those other books you're talking about?? I never heard of them... (story of my life again?) Big Smile Smilie
Hobbit is great if you just want to read an entertaining book. It hasn't got a lot of symbolism or deep meaning. Sometimes you just prefer to be entertained. I frankly could not get through LOTR as a youth and it was sheer determination (after seeing the movie and getting that extra push I needed) that got me through it as a 30 something...
I was not overfond of the Hobbit until very recently.
I did not like the half-mocking manner of unfolding of the story, and I was frankly disgusted
by the passages like these:
The yells and yammering, croaking, jibbering and jabbering, howls, growls and
curses; shrieking and skriking that followed were beyond description. Several hundred
wild cats and wolves being roasted slowly alive would not have compared with it
Smile Smilie
or the goblin song
Bake and toast 'em, fry and roast 'em!
till beards blaze, and eyes glaze;
till hair smells and skins crack,
fat melts, and bones black
in cinders lie
beneath the sky!
So dwarves shall die,
and light the night for our delight

What a horror!!! - and making fun of cruelty!
But recently I reread "the Hobbit" and it is a great book - in particular in respect
to the postAuthorID's power to evoke visions using just a few words.
The passage which delighted me the most describes the flight of Bilbo borne by an eagle:
he looked down between his dangling toes and saw the dark lands opening
wide underneath him, touched here and there with the light of the moon on a hill-side rock
or a stream in the plains

You can really SEE it all!!!!
Yep! That's what I like about Tolkien's reading: you can just see it happening in front of your eyes even though you know it's fantasy! Smile Smilie
And how do you like the description of what Frodo saw when looking out of both windows of Tom Bombadil and Goldberry house on a rainy morning? It is my favourite passage too, I can see every details up to these red bean flowers glistening in the rain!
Yes and the chapter on pipeweed... I could almost smell it.... (gak)
Tolkien leaves enough room though, that you can imagine things on your own...not just have them dictated to you.
Which is why a movie is seldom as good as the book. The director/screen writer is trying to add the filler that we have already imagined with our mind's eye; they just can't duplicate what we have previously seen.
I've yet to read LotR, but I just finished The Hobbit and it did make me want to read LotR even more! The only thing I'm concerned about is this: We're reading the Hobbit in class and i don't want to confuse LotR with The Hobbit. Will this happen? I don't want to accidentally write down the wrong answers to review questions in class! Big Smile Smilie
I don't think it should be a problem...most of the characters and things in the Hobbit aren't really focused on in LotR, so don't worry about confusing them.
Welcome Blinki316.

I agree with Chikakat.
Welcome blinki! (funny name, btw, but so is mine, so don't worry) Wink Smilie

I agree with chikakat too. (now that I come to think of it, we all have funny names... :P )
Who's got a funny name?
You're the one to say that, of all people! Very Big Grin Smilie
Squirrels ain't people, they're critters, especially plastic ones, which can also be classified as varmints. Varmints have a taste somewhere between the spear and the pepper variety of mints; maybe a little closer to the chocolate-chip mint than the buttermint. Read Smilie Big Smile Smilie
ROFL! Could have thought so... Ha Ha Ha Smilie
Oh dear, varmints...
What do you mean, varmints? Did I miss something? Wary Smilie