Oh well, he also knew that Minas Morgul = tower of sorcery and that Orodruin = Mount Doom and that didn't prevent him neither to pass/go to it.

One evil thing more or less, who cares ?

Quick Thought: If Frodo had known what awaited him, do you think he would have turned back and find another way?

Would Samwise have known about 'Spider Pass?' If he didn't know right off the bat what it meant, would Frodo have told him?

I just thought of another reason why Frodo would dare travel through a spider infested pass. He was carrying 'Sting, the bane of the Mirkwood spiders'. I think he can be forgiven for misjudging the size and number of the eight-legged critters.

[Edited on 2/6/2003 by Grondmaster]

I hear you on that one! He really gave her something to think about. It would have been cool if she had died. (Not that death is ever something to call 'cool,' but, come on, she's just evil... )

Poor Sam, to be completely honest I almost cried when he thought Frodo died. ( sigh )

That quote "don't go where your Sam can't follow" is one of my favorites!!!! Anyway...

But if you think about it, Frodo's 'death' was actually good, because it meant that Sam had the ring for a while, and therefore was ringbearer, in which case he got to go to Valinor (eventually). Which meant he was with Frodo int the long run!!! (don't you just love syllogisms! )

I always like the Valinor part, because it gave Sam recumpense for Gollum's tricks he had to endure: Sam got to see Valinor , but all Gollum saw was the inside of Mount Doom!!!


[Edited on 4/6/2003 by Beleg_Strongbow]

I believe Frodo would have been a more accomplished Sindarin loremaster then Sam, I don't even know if Sam knew Sindarin (Certianly not Quenya) at the time, though Faramir doubtless, knew what it meant, since he was of the Gondorian aristoracy and I think it is probable that Frod would have too.

I belive that he may have thought it was a fabled name or a 'name of legends', the Gondorians may have encountered spiders there before or maybe Anarion or the Last Alliaince ecnountered giant spiders and that there was no spider/s there anymore.

WHAT???

No you are correct my little squirrel

Findekano I meant "Makes sense Findekano" not "Make sense Findekano".....sorry for the missing 'S'

But hey Plastic I do not ALWAYS agree I can become evil you know

Yeh theres only room for so many of us evil ones around here!

*Points at the Squirrel whilst turning his head away*

Yes and they would have starved if they had gone all the way round....

Hmm i think when they entered Mordor, THEY were the food :P

That area around the Eastern entrance to Mordor was home to the Variags, a particularly nasty race of Easterling horsemen. Had this way been that much easier, I think Gil-Galad and Elendil would have used it at the end of the Second Age.

Even if Frodo had known that a humongous spider was lurking there, taking that path was the only option to reach Mt Doom in any reasonable time.

I live in the county of Los Angeles and even though I know that means "the angels", you don't take it that when you travel to LA you're going to literally encounter angels anymore than you would anywhere else. Similarly if I were told "this is spider's pass we're hiking through" I wouldn't think anything more of it than perhaps to speculate in the way above "gee, I wonder why it's named that..." -- Never in wildest imagination would I think it meant "here dwells a giant spider-monster who's stench is legendary and whose size rivals the size of small living room and whose prey is orcs and other similarly sized creatures instead of flys and the like"