Thread: The Books
First of all I am new to this forum, and fairly new to the world of Tolkien. I've read The Hobbit 2 times, and The Lord of the rings once.
Enjoyed it alot, I've seen the movies for about 5 times and I've read a lot on the internet about the new hobbit movie.
The world is great and it made me wonder if it is worthwile to read the "Silmarillion" and "the Children of Hurin" and in what order is it most fun for me to read them, timeline wise...
I Believe it's this way right?
- Children of Hurin
- The Hobbit
- Lord of the Rings
There are more books which I can't recall the name of at the moment. So if anyone has the time to clarify this for me, that would be great!
By the way since I'm knew to the forum I'll introduce myself:
I'm Roy aka Huan (I just use that name in a lot of online games and forums, I just loved the story of Beren and L’thien with Huan (the dog))
I live in Holland and I'm 19 years old. Currently working full-time but planning to start a study again coming August, also made it through the tests to become a Dutch marine officer (still in doubt about my decission(study <-> marine) So now that's told I look forward to see some reactions!
As to your query about your decision to be a Dutch Marine Officer, perhaps you could clarify if that is a military or other agency and if by Study you mean college. It seems to me, without knowing, that either way your duties may interfere with your plans to study. You should think carefully about which is your highest priority in your life at this moment--fulfilling a duty to your country or furthering your education (which could also lead to great contributions to your society).
In the meantime, there have been a number of interesting discussions here, and I hope to read your comments on some of them.
As for Gandalfs questions: It's definitely a military function, comparisable to the US marine corps. And yes my study means college Sport management & organisation, which is located in Amsterdam.. so it's for me to decide which one it's going to be. The main point of my doubts is 'social life'
If I decide to choose the marines I got 5 years of education and training, after that a 7 year contract. So that means 12 year of solitude (in a way) hardly home in the weekends, always away during the week. But 12 years of a good salary plus the certainty of a job.
I've read most of the discussions on the forum, and I promise you I will be joining them soon
Though, if you prefer, Children of Hurin will be easier to read and more enjoyable the first time through. Due to the scope of the Silmarillion, I found it a very hard and boring read the first time through. I have since them come to love it.
Anyways, I would actually suggest (if you have time) that you read LOTR again. There are a lot of Silmarillion references that, if you catch them, will make the Silmarillion more enjoyable. After that, I'd just plunge into the Silmarillion. It's thick, but it's good. I got the tape recording from my library and read along with the narrator. This helped me not stumble over names. After the Silmarillion, I'd say read the Children of Hurin. It'll be a nice break from the thickness of the Silmarillion.
Another interesting book that I found is "Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle-Earth." It has some really interesting stuff in it. The last part of the book is devoted to filling in gaps in LOTR. Like telling where certain characters were and what they were doing while the actual story of LOTR was on someone else. It's a great reference book.
I am currently reading "The History of Middle-Earth" a 12-volume series detailing Tolkien's life work on Middle-Earth. If you don't want to get that involved, then I suggest you just read a couple. The Book of Lost Tales (vols. 1 and 2) give an awesome version of the Silmarillion. All it really is is the Silmarillion in fire-side form. These elves just get together every night and tell tales of the old world. It's great. Another is "The Lost Road." It is an unfinished story about time-travel (written at the same time and as a compliment to C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy.) Even though the actual story is quite short, it is very interesting. If you want more than all these that I've mentioned, try "The Lays of Beleriand." It gives the stories of Beren and Luthien and the Children of Hurin in poetry form. Very beautiful.
If you want some small stuff (not necessarily from Middle-Earth), try "Farmer Giles of Ham", "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil", "Leaf by Niggle", and "Smith of Wootton Major."
Now that you have enough reading to last you quite a few years, I suppose I'll shut up .
Your idea of first reading the "lord of the rings" again sounds smart, cause I often confuse the story in the book with the story in the movies, and I know that's quite different.
So I'd probably read that all over again, that should keep me buisy for a while, although I'm a fast reader.
after that it would probably be smart (as Beren, show and Gandalf stated) to read the silmarillion. I love the whole world of middle earth so I guess I won't get borred that fast. Next is probably "unfinished tales of numenor and middle-earth" and after that I'll have a look what interests me most. Anyway thanks for the clarification.
And then one more thing, ofcourse I'm Dutch and I'm able to get all the books in the Dutch language, but wouldn't it be more fun for me to read them all in English? Can you guys shine a light on this matter? hmm my english isn't bad, not bad at all, but I'm wondering if the silmarillion is hard to understand if you read it in a different language as your own..
If you have already read LOTR in Dutch try it in English now. If it's not too bad then you should have no problem reading the Silmarillion in English.
P.S. By the way, Idon't want to be accused of leading you away from Military service--but if both opportunities lay before me--I would choose Scholarship. But that's just me .
I'll let you guys know if I come across passages which I don't fully understand, but don't keep your hopes up.. I know I will understand it for the bigger part.
haha no one will accuse you, but why exactly would you choose for scholarship?
And I'm kind of a Wuss
what bothers me the most is the loss of my social life (e.g girlfriend/ sports/ friends/ partying/ marriage?/ children) I need to complete 5 years of training and after that a 7 year contract, that means 12 years of service. So 12 years of life without a great social life.
I guess I'll choose scholarship
By the way, anyone got some great site's? where I can order the books in English? I was looking at www.tolkien.co.uk but maybe some of you know something better?
Just in a reread the other day I realised that I had completly forgotten that Feonor wasn't his name. His given name was Curufinwe, but he mother called him Feonor. Tolkien has a certain love with giving people names, and then giving them a few extra names just to make things interesting. A good thing to due would be to xerox or print off the web a copy of geneology for the Noldor Elves. One king who had three children, then each of them had a bunch, you get a little overwhelmed. And a print out is nice so you can doodle little notes to remind you of who is who or did what when you meet a character again 100 pages after they were last mentioned.
I need some opinions guys!
I got two options:
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/boeken-engels/t ... index.html (and then ofcourse all three books of this edition)
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/boeken-engels/t ... t_overview (and once again all three of this edition)
the first one is less expensive, and yes I want them new