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Hey All!
Sorry for being out for so long. But I have a question for those with the resources to check:
Who, exactly, fought in the Great Battle, the War of Wrath?
According to my copies of the Silmarillion:
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But the host of the Valar prepared for battle; and beneath their white banners marched the Vanyar, the people of Ingwe, and also those of the Noldor who never departed from Valinor, whose leader was Finarfin the son of Finwe. Few of the Teleri were willing to go forth to war, for they remembered the slaying at the Swanhaven, and the rape of their ships; but they hearkened to Elwing, who was the daughter of Dior Eluchil and come of their own kindred, and they sent mariners enough to sail the ships that bore the host of Valinor east over the sea. Yet they stayed aboard their vessels, and none of them set foot upon the Hither Lands.
Of the march of the host of the Valar to the north of Middle-earth little is said in any tale; for among them went none of those Elves who had dwelt and suffered in the Hither Lands, and who had made the histories of those days that are still known...But at the last the might of Valinor came up out of the West, and the challenge of the trumpets of Eonwe filled the sky; and Beleriand was ablaze with the glory of their arms, for the host of the Valar were arrayed in forns young and fair and terrible, and the mountains rang beneath their feet.

Further, it states in the Unfinished Tales that to the downfall of Melkor, Manwe sent his herald Eonwe; but it doesn't say whether Tulkas and Orome were there to lead the host, as they fought in the precious wars between the Powers. Did Eonwe lead the host? And if Eonwe was there, were there any other Maiar with him? It's implied that there were, since they were "arrayed in forms young and fair and terrible", and the Maiar were able to incarnate themselves in different forms. Or was Morgoth's power so depleted and dispersed that one Maia and various Elves were able to defeat him and all his hosts of orcs and balrogs and trolls and ground-dragons?
I would like to believe that Aule and Ulmo, as well as Osse and Uinen, were involved in the battle as well; their involvement would help to explain the sinking of Beleriand.
As always, I look forward to the responses to this thread. Thanks!
I don't think Orom’ or Tulkas were present at the War of Wrath, since they could probably take out all baddies on their own.

Orom’ would only sound his horn and all baddies would cower in fear and be quaking back to the cesspits they spawned from.

As for Tulkas, his roaring bellylaugh would have the same affect as the horn. If not, imagine having to stand against a huge Ob’lix-type figure and you get the idea.

Anyway, E’nw’ is the biggest name mentioned by JRRT (or Christopher Tolkien), and so I see no reason to speculate about other the presence of other notable figures. E’nw’ was not the only Maia present, since the Great Eagles took part in the aerial battle vs Old Grumpy's dragons.

Still, considering it is mentioned that Old Grumpy was swiped off his feet, humiliated and chained, one might wonder who but a Vala or Tin’viel would be able of such a feat.

Maybe Old Grumpy just fainted in fear when the Elfies were knocking on his door.

One with access to HoMe might be able to add some more material.
Hang about and I predict Galin will fill in the blanks within a day or two. Happy Elf Smilie
I don't want to be predictable; or did you know I was going to say that Wink Smilie
Ah, come on Galin; be predictable; you know you want to. Pretty please, with cream and sugar on it. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
Maybe the BUG (Big Unfriendly Giant) was swept off his feet in a way similar to how the Lilliputtians brought down Gulliver..
Quite unexpectedly and out of the blue...

... here's the Silmarillion passage as it was published, interspersed however with the text as it appears in the 'pre-Lord of the Rings' version of Quenta Silmarillion. Asterisked sections refer to two cursory corrections JRRT made much later.

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'Of the march of the host of the Valar [host of Fionwe] to the north of Middle-earth [to the north] little is said in any tale; for among them [for in his armies] went none of those Elves who had dwelt and suffered in the Hither Lands, and who had made the histories of those days that are still known; and tidings of these things they only learned [they learned] long afterwards from their kinsfolk in Aman [kinsfolk, the Light-elves of Valinor*]. But at the last the might of Valinor came up out of the West [But at the last Fionwe came up out of the West], and the challenge of the trumpets of Eonwe [of his trumpets] filled the sky; [and he summoned unto him all Elves and men from Hithlum unto the East,] and Beleriand was ablaze with the glory of their [his] arms, for the host of the Valar [for the sons of the Gods] were arrayed in forms young and fair and terrible [were young and fair and terrible**], and the mountains rang beneath their feet.'


Tolkien never got around to really revising this section later, but he did make some corrections to it, concerning which (Christopher Tolkien warns) do not necessarily amount to any sort of final approval of content. Two changes here were:

* 'the Light-Elves of Valinor' > 'the Light-elves in Valinor' -- > 'kinsfolk in Aman' in the published Silmarillion.

** 'the sons of the Gods were young and fair and terrible' > 'the host of the Gods were arrayed in forms of Valinor' -- 1977 Silmarillion > 'for the host of the Valar were arrayed in forms young and fair and terrible'

Basically what happened is that Fionwe son of Manwe became Eonwe herald of Manwe, and the Children of the Valar became a rejected idea; but Tolkien himself never revised this passage in any substantial fashion after The Lord of the Rings was published (which tale took a long time to write and go to print, of course).

It might be noted too that in the published Silmarillion, regarding Eonwe, the statement: 'whose might in arms is surpassed by none in Arda' was an addition from Christopher Tolkien, 'made in order to prepare for his leadership of the hosts of the West at the Great Battle'. Tolkien himself had described that among the Maiar, Eonwe herald of Manwe, and Ilmare handmaid of Varda, 'were the chief.'