I played rhythm toothbrush in the band at Bilbo's party, honest, do I count?

oh shoot,they found me out...

Too late.

I'd be surprised if someone of those movies would be member here, coz those movies have nothin in common with the books, safe for the title they stole. but if they'd come in here, they'd be hunted down, captured and exiled to the land of nod. that's it

is this true Liv, Cate, or Miranda? Who are you PLEASE tell me!!! if your not really part of the cast feel free to not answer this question. but if you are what is elijah wood really like!!! i love him!!!! ask him to please him to attend this site!!!rr*evithian faints because of loss of air* [only momentarly ]

Peter Jackson was a member here once, well, alright it turned out to be Balrog, but it was pretty funny for a while...

I am PJ honest, listen. I'm stuck up my own harmonica, I haven't read the books and I have shrimp for brains.

[Edited on 19/9/2003 by Grondmaster]

I think it would be very neat if any of the cast were members here. They might have been, they had to learn Elvish and research the part, and what better way than to join a Tolkien fan site?
Maybe someone should email PJ and send him a link to the site

Just him? I think I'll join the club.

Shrimp sounds good right now, or yummy steamed crab... ’drools’ Anyone got a hammer, I don't think Ross will mind too much if we dip into his mind...

This is why emailing PJ and send him a link to the site is not a good idea at all! PT would get in a lot of troubble!

I belive in freedom of speech. If PJ can get away with butchering the book to such an extent that it only shares the same title and character names, I can verbaly abuse him until I'm blue in the face. I have large lungs

In actual fact, virumor, the script for the film was written long before JRR put pen to paper. I'm disappointed to say he did not follow the movies very well at all. This is most annoying because many people who read the books first come away with totally the wrong impression of how it should have been. And it's a sacrilage how Tolkien blatently invented characters and scenes that were never there.... Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Downs for instance. What was he trying to pull with that one. And how he robbed poor Arwen of all her scenes. He tried to totally play her out in his interpretation, making her nothing more than Aragorn's bit on the side. Who is this Glorfindel character anyway? I'm not happy how he tried to soften up both Elrond and Faramir either. Everyone knows they were meant to be stern, mean *******s, not the Mummy's boys he portraid them as.

Well I could go on and on, but I won't. I'll just say how bitterly disappointed I am that whole generations were brought up not realising that Legolas was elven skateboarding champ, Gimli was a star comedian and Aragorn loved his horse.

Roflmao Val!!

Oh boy. I better start reading The Hobbit to my kids before they even know what I'm reading about.

What you mean I've been wrong all along.

Seriously Delidia? You didn't know that abbreviation? Well, if you feel like it there's a thread here somewhere in the forums that's named "chatters" or something like that that contains bussloads of abbreviations. Just a tip.

Delidia: If you didn't read Valedhelgwath's last post which was a beautiful tongue in cheek piece of satire of all the nay-sayers on here, anyway, if you didn't read it you missed a good laugh.

And don't worry about not knowing what some group of letters stand for, just ask. That's how I learned what ROFL meant, three years ago when I first came to Planet-Tolkien.com, which was my first experience with forums, chat, or being online even.

/me hugs Arcormacolind’va simply because it's so good to read something nice and polite after (against my better knowledge) trying to discuss with Ross and Aul’. I love the movies despite their mistakes/changes/violations of Tolkiens works, sat for hours looking at the drawings for Bag-End one day, full layout of all the rooms inside while we just see about four rooms in the movie. A lot of love is put into these movies, most of the work is not shown on the screen. So view the appendixes, they're pratically as important at Tolkiens appendixes.

Well said lord_aragorn86. Welcome to our forum. I hape to see more of your posts.

I think that is maybe the top and bottom of it, Virumor. Everyone has different likes, dislikes, expectations and tolerances. Some people would rather see a film that follows the book very closely, while others would prefer a film that cuts the slower parts. Film and books are two different media, and while there is a cross-over, they don't always translate very well.

Personally, I'm like you in that I would have preferred to see a film that followed the book more closely, but we've got what we've got, and I still think it's a great film. Had I never read the books, I think I would have thought the film fantastic. The changes do grate, but I cannot deny the quality and detail (okay not to the story, maybe ) that went into it. I cannot think of many other films that have gone to such lengths to make everything seem so real. It's a shame certain plots have been unnecessarily twisted.

Changing plots is not unusual though. Many books that have been adapted to film find their story hacked and slashed about. Take Jaws, for instance. It's one of the greatest films ever made, but quite different to the book in places (even to the extent of the death of the main character in the book, while he swims quite happily into the sunset in the film).

I know the moives arent the books, but they ARE good. Although i hate what happened to faramir, and other things, i still enjoy them. i mean some people are just so stuck up about the moives that it sickens me. cut PJ some slack!! i do agree that the books are better and always will be, but i am content as to just see what these people have created for our sheer enjoyment. i dont ask for more than that but i can see that others would rather whine about it than be thankful.

Well said it's the effects that carry the poor excuses for movies. Come on PJ show your face in Manchester I dare you. First i'm going to make you read the complete works of Tolkien then I'm going to feed you to Sprout!

Agreed, Evithian! But I will say that although I believe he did a pretty descent job of capturing the idea of LOTR, I think PJ left out some of the heart behind it. I will say that he lended to the good/evil struggle greatly by adding the elves into Helm's Deep-I think Prof. Tolkien might even have approved of that, seeing how it lends itself well to the idea that elves are steadfast and true, though in Tolkien's own words,they were mostly unconcerned with the affairs or wars of men.

As someone here said, the movies were only one group of people's interpretation of LOTR, and each other person would have their own variation. We must also try not to be so limiting of our enjoyment of things because of their lack of authorial purity- as in life itself, and certainly humans which create works of this nature, nothing is perfect and everything has to naturally evolve, or mutate.

In the case of the movies, I believe that the interest of the moviemaker is to present an engaging and entertaining movie, if not completely by-the-book literally. Also the idea was to keep it action-packed enough to interest people who may not have ever read the books(imagine how deprived they are!), therefore making Tolkien's work more accessible to the general public and sparking an appreciation for his creation in them. So more power to those who want to include others beside our fanatical selves in the amazing world of Tolkien's soul via movies or whatever.

Can anyone say rant? Sorry...Now that's said-I desperately hope any of the cast members visit here so they can see the dedication of the fans that love what they were a small part of...even if all of us don't agree with their portrayals!

Ainulindhe , please excuse my intrusion in your post. I merely broke up the text to make your post a little easier for other members to read. It’s a really great post, and I like what you had to say! I hope some others take the time to read it, and sincerely think about what you said. Elfstone

couldn't say it better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And us nay sayers will be laughing, in the safe knowledge we haven't just wasted three hours of our life watching his tripe.

The oscars. The biggest show of self congratulating idiots of them all. These award ceromonies aret here to promote movies that are currently on release on either the big screen or various video formats to increase sales in a cynical attempt to treat the general public in contempt. Hmmm might be working in some cases