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I was wandering: What kind of jobs did Shire-folk have? and especially Bilbo, what job did he have before he earned himself enough shinies for the rest of his life?

And what kind of money did hobbits use?

(yeah I kinda only read The Hobbit, parts of Silmarillion, The Two Towers, and I'm mear the end in The Return of the King.... I didn't read The Fellowship because it wasn't in the library and hasn't returned last time I checked)
Hi,

I just started reading the Hobbit again and it states that Bilbo's Mother Belladonna Took was wealthy and her money was used by Bilbos old man to build bag end. It doesnt really say what bilbo did for a living only that he was wealthy even before the journey to the lonely mountain. Sorry I cant be of any more help.

QS
I think Bilbo was an absentee landlord who raked in a share of his farmers' crops plus he also probably had an interest in Sanyman's mill and the local brewery and distillery, and maybe he owned all the houses on Bagshot Row too. He may also have dabbled in grain futures, pork bellies, and hog butts. In other words; he didn't have to do physical work, just a couple hours each week keeping his books up to date.

In other words he was independently wealthy. Of course none of the above is per canon, its merely my supposition/speculatiom. Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
Hey grondmaster you could be right about the distillery, Bilbo says to gandalf in FOTR Movie that the old winyard was laid down by his father.
Thanks for the info, and for money they just used gold I guess or maybe trading to
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Bilbo says to gandalf in FOTR Movie that the old winyard was laid down by his father.
Well, "laid down" in this case meant to store away in the wine cellar where the bottles are laid down on their sides rather than on their bottoms, I believe to keep the cork stoppers from oxidizing and ruining the wine.

The hobbits seldom used gold for their ordinary day to day trade, more in likely they used copper and silver pennies. Remember, "Bill Ferny's price was twelve silver pennies and that was indeed three times the ponies value in those parts" (Bree). You could probably buy a room for the night, including one meal with a single copper penny.
Among the excluded passages which were only published in The Peoples of Middle-earth is a brief but fascinating section detailing the names of money used in Gondor. The tharni, we are told, was a silver coin, the fourth part of a castar. The tharni may thus have been equivalent to the silver pennies of Eriador. It seems silver coins is a bit of a standard.

Hmm - a reference I am not familiar with. What is "The Peoples of Middle Earth"?
It's the 12th and last book in the History of Middle-earth series.
Yes I agree with Grondmaster,
Bilbo Baggins of the Shire lived the life of a Gentleman and saw to it that his heir Master Frodo Baggins could do the same.Emma and Miss Elizabeth would have approved of him I am sure.Smile Smilie
Nah, he was a vegatable seller selling his garden's produce to passer-by. Gandalf was a regular customer... Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
True Thorin, but the veggies would have been grown by his gardeners and tenent farmers as part of his diversified holdings.
True but he liked to give a hand when harvest time came as true english gentlemen farmers....
Yeah, he got out there in his jodpurs, spats, and a tweed jacket (one of those with leather patched elbows) and only used his spade to lean upon. Still, he could talk the good talk about which seeds to plant and about cuttings and splicing and all that is agricultural.
The Shire was a good place to live even for the poorer hobbits as everyone seemed to be able to eat their fill, drink beer at the inns and raise families. What more could one desire?
Yes what a layback place. And I remember in the beginning of the Fellowship that it was mentioned how lenient the Hobbit parents were about letting their youngins stay up and partake of party fare for it took a lot of provender it said to feed them. So by sending them to parties or attending dinners or whatever, visiting wealthier kin folk they got by nicely. It never mentioned any Hobbits of the Shire, still in the Shire who suffered from thinness!
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The Shire was a good place to live even for the poorer hobbits as everyone seemed to be able to eat their fill, drink beer at the inns and raise families. What more could one desire?

I'd desire more than the life of an eloi. They never looked beyond the borders of their confinement, or even wondered what lied there, safe a few that were regarded as odd fellows.

They didn't realize that they were basically living in a bubble. If not for the Rangers, they'd all be enslaved/obliterated by the unlight in a jiffy.

Stagnation is detrimental for any species. Without imagination, curiosity and creativity one simply goes down in the entropical maelstrom of the universe. This would've happened to the Hobbits also, if not for the return of four heroes to wake them up.
Ah, but we were forgeting the Tookish genes and that busy-body of the late Third Age, who enticed a trio of them out of the Shire on dangerous quests. One of those allowed two others to tag along. After their return, the first two took a safer journey into the West and the two tag-alongs made subsequent journeys to the southern lands. It is even rumored theat the third of the trio also made that journey into the West. And of course the decendents of these travelers moved into the Tower Hills, which had not yet been annexed top the Shire.
I could never have managed to live the life of a Hobbit, for me the world is a global village, what brings hurt and harm to one concerns me, never mind millions out there. But Tolkien spoke of the simplicity of life that Samwise and Rosie and their offspring evoked, in otherwards eating and drinking and raising family, of community. And yes they truly did live in a bubble, I would have been one of the Dunedain I am sure.
But someone has to live simply and do the time honored things common to all creatures. There is a scripture that I love that talks about how scribes are the ones who carefully write all things down and are full of wisdom and intelligence and leave for posterity wonder and knowledge, etc. But then follows the words that says that there are besides the common folk who raise the chickens and milk the cows, who work the land and get up and go to bed and live very simple lives. It ends by saying it is upon these such that the whole fabric of the world hangs, or something like that. So we need both to make life interesting. And every now and then snippets of one existence infiltrates into the consciousness of another and then the Bilbo's of this world and the Frodos and Pippens and Merrys do astounding things that shake up the world. LIfe is very simple and very complex.