and I was wondering if any of ya remember your first impressions of the movie.Thread: TFOTR: your first time.
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and I was wondering if any of ya remember your first impressions of the movie.
Ashley276
I thought FotR was fantastic when I saw it and still think it's the best of the three (the third one's REALLY disappointing). I didn't mind any of the changes or cuts - how could you put Bombadil on film without him looking an idiot? - though I've always found the guy who plays Elrond the worst of the lead (second lead or whatever) actors. He'd be the only thing I'd change in FotR.
As for Agent Smith playing Elrond..... not my first choice, but he was good in parts.
) Music, costumes, scenery, all was good. I understood and I loved it! I do remember thinking that Galadriels "even the smallest person can change the course of the future" (or something like that) was not a Tolkien line but a had to be a Hollywood line. I remember being quite excited befor seeing it, surfing the web for info getting more interested, curious and confused wondering why Elrond was the only elf to have dark hairk and thinking that Arwens jewel was what made her immortal and other silly stuff. I'm glad I know this stuff now and that I know where to go when I have any questions.
I think the other thing that struck me was how realistic everything appeared. It didn't seem to have that "hollywood haze" about it. Although I could not quite place what was different about it at the time, I think with hindsight it was the close attention to minute detail that the makers had gone to. Costumes and weapons etc appeared real because they were real.
I remember the day the movie came out....Me and my two hobbit head friends went....
We dressed up
.....I was Aragorn ( a pretty crummy one, might I say as I did not know what he would look like . ), my friend was Merry and my other friend was Glorfindel....Imagine her surprise when he wasn't in the film....
But I adored the movies..
I did feel that a lot of things should have been kept in, and I won't bore you all by naming them....
But I understand the whole TB thing, and even Arwen replacing Glorfindel..
So I really enjoyed it..
). I hadn't read the books and I figured it would just be some sort of phase that the whole "normal" population was into (yes I'm actually not normal! HAH!
). Everyone was saying how it would blow the Harry Potter movies out of the water in popularity and also in that it was just plain better than the HP movies. I LOVE Harry Potter so I was ticked until finally my mom said, "Well why don't we just see what this is all about," and then guess who came out of the theater saying that that was probably the BEST movie they ever saw? Yeppers it was me not my mom. I was totally in awe by all the great effects and the phomenal drama that was present throughout the entire movie. The whole plot just drew me in and I could think about nothing else. I thought I was a part of the adventure and even though at some parts I was a little confused, basically I thought the movie was a perfect mix of all the things that I love (and actually I think it was kinda a better than the Harry Potter movie. Talk about ironic huh?
) The other thing that everyone ought to know about me (in case they meet me and need to know to back away from me.....just kidding) is that I get really into movies and I get really emotional. So I think I cried 3 times during the movie: once when Gandalf fell (not died like I first thought), when Boromir got shot 3 times and died, and when Sam nearly drowned. Well for Gandalf I think I was more in shock than anything and when Sam started to go under I think I was mouthing "NO! NOT SAM!!!!!!!" (Yeah see what I mean? I'm a freak and proud of it!
) So that's my interesting story of the first time I saw FOTR and now I've read the books, including the Hobbit and the Simarillion, and my twin told me all the stories in Unfiinished Tales. I do agree that some parts of the book shouldn't have been taken out but overall I thought it was the BEST MOVIE EVER! (which I stil think it is!
)
Anyway, it is the movie I've seen the most times in my life and I can't get tired of watching it. I actually think there's one better movie than FotR: the SEE of FotR! heheI watched this movie and was at complete awe. So i went and read TTT and ROTK, because i couldn't wait for the movies, and was flabberghasted. When i saw the movies TTT and ROTK, after reading the books, i was quite disappointed because they didn't live up to my expectations. i forgot to mention that after reading TTT and ROTK, i started over proper by reading FOTF, TTT, and finally ROTK.... all in a months or 2. After reading FOTF i realized the movie isn't as good as the book, surprise! But from the book to movie translations i think FOTF was the best, hands down.
FOTF the movie introduced me to Tolkiens world.....
So what exactly is FOTF? Fellowship of the Fink? Never seen that in my lifetime!
Well, FOTR held me in awe. I felt like a little kid holding a teddy bear in one hand and looking up in the sky at an aeroplane for the first time. Well, the comparison ain't that good but comes close. But I think it was good that I never compared the book with the movies or else I'm afraid I wold have been someone like Virumor, Aule or someone!!
But I think it was good that I never compared the book with the movies or else I'm afraid I wold have been someone like Virumor, Aule or someone!!
You like namecalling, don't you?
I dislike the movies, so what? That's just my opinion. It are just movies. Get over it.
I'm not whining all the time about you constantly griping on Hairy Potty, am I?
So what exactly is FOTF? Fellowship of the Fink? Never seen that in my lifetime!
Tsk tsk, it's not allowed by Ms Vee to correct spelling mistakes! That's "picking despite your own imperfections". Jeez. Probably a new Council rule i missed.
You like namecalling, don't you?
I dislike the movies, so what? That's just my opinion. It are just movies. Get over it.
I'm not whining all the time about you constantly griping on Hairy Potty, am I?
Hey! Who's whining? And I didn't mean any offense to you. I just helped them visualise what I wanted to say.
That's "picking despite your own imperfections". Jeez. Probably a new Council rule i missed.
Make that to read we missed! This is a bad rule!
In another thread, you suddenly stated that i was picking on a member, which i didn't? I think THAT is ridiculing, not to mention offending someone.
Or are you trying to make me leave this so-called forum? Hey, it's certainly working.

Yes, a fruitful day that was. When a friend asked me to go rewatch the movie some weeks later, i answered : "NUTS!". Hurhurhur.
all those Tolkien purists grabbing seats, beer cans and ppl dressed up as Elves and then throwing them at the screen...
Okay I'm confused here Vir, did the so called Tolkien "purists" were grabbing and throwing even seats and people dressed as elves on the screen? My what powerful people yo have in Belgium. And why punish the poor people dressed as elves? They needn't be grabbed and thrown! We here had to make do with roses only!
Just be careful that nitpicking on spelling mistakes or typos doesn't turn into ridiculing another member, which is against the rules.
That wasn't aimed at you. It was a comment for everyone's benefit, bearing in mind the difference in languages. Don't take it personally. Most comments (such as LA's post before this) are said in humour. I'd hate the humour on PT to be squashed. And I love the idea of people dressed up as elves being thrown at the screen as well as chairs. (Humour - go on, smile, it's the festive season!)
I don't want anyone to leave. I want to keep you all here for ever. It's the differences which make it so interesting.
Have a mince pie and a glass of festive cheer. Yes, I made the pies myself and no, I haven't poisoned them.

I don't want anyone to leave. I want to keep you all here for ever. It's the differences which make it so interesting.
Which stinkin fish dares to leave this ship? Ye all are gonna stick yerself up and remain here. Aye! Ye heard me right!
And on with yer mince pies Vee. Mind if I cut in?
Although I didn't get the deep meaning of the One Ring and of the other things and facts in the movie, I watched it again and then I finally understood the true message of the story.
Today I still LOVE to watch TLOTR and I can still feel the magic within it.




And the sad thing is, I agree with the statement above: Jackson did a fantastic job of recreating the world. It was my great dread that this challenge was impossible to meet, yet he did it far beyond my expectations. And then the easy part, the part that he didn't have to do because the Professor already had, he totally muffed: he decided he needed to improve the narrative. Bah! What a disappointment a doably perfect job was done so wrong.
After what the Orcs did to Celebrian he was a little reluctant to let her go gallavanting around the countryside with Ringwraiths.
That's why she apparently sneaked out of Rivendell, after having stolen Vilya, which would explain her ability to cast watery spells (together with the horse waves). Or maybe it was just because Arwen was suddenly upgraded to an Elf Mage level 35.
I think it's sad that due all them Tolkien purists complaining their arses off, PJ took out Arwen from Helm's Deep in TTT. Seeing her wade through a sea of Uruk-hai, all the while exchanging amorous looks with Aragorn, would've been interesting to see. Much better than seeing Haldir & Co getting creamed.
I agree with everything you said about the FOTR disappointing and yet fulfilling our idea of ME. I rather expected something like Arwen's part taking over Glorfindel's, and also knew that Bombadil was doomed. The expanded DVD compensated--I thought--because of putting back lots from the books that had been omitted in the theatrical version.
But, as I've said elsewhere, despite the imprecisions, PJ took away my breath and brought tears to my eyes when I first saw Gandalf pull up to Bilbo's door. That is the scene I had imagined for 30 years, and PJ did it justice! (I had better not go off on TTT and ROTK, but my review of ROTK is posted on another thread, if you want to see it.)

Besides, if Arwen had been at Helms Deep it would have spoiled Aragorns attempts to make time with Eowyn, and we all know how much we loved "Aragorn the Cad" from the books. :elfvomits:
No, it would perhaps have spoiled ’owyn's attempts to make time with Aragorn - although of course the presence of both would have opened some interesting possibilities for Aragorn.
He could have solved his apparent dilemma - offer his heart on a silver plate to which damsel? - by a mud wrestling or cooking contest, for instance.
It's a pity PJ didn't steer his adaptation in this direction.

Oh, and Vir... we all know I'd rather see Galadriel vs. Eowyn, right? Or maybe vs. Idril.... *ponders* ;-p
Oh, and Vir... we all know I'd rather see Galadriel vs. Eowyn, right? Or maybe vs. Idril.... *ponders* ;-p
This raises a question : considering your apparent fondness of blondes, why then do you object that every Elf in PJ's adaptation of LOTR is so wonderfully fair-haired? Lipservice, perchance? :-P
As near as I can tell the Teleri were silver haired.
I think some were, but certainly not everyone. There's Elw’, Celeborn & Celebr’an who are mentioned as silverhaired, that's all. Maybe only those related to Elw’ have silver hair.
And we already had this discussion at the "Hair colour" thread, I believe : Hair colour
PS : Celeborn one of the Two Trees?! You're slipping, my friend. Celeborn was a seedling of Galathilion (who was a seedling of Telperion and stood in Tirion) and stood on Tol Eresse’. :-P
I have just taken the jubilee bank holiday as an opportunity to watch all three moves back-to-back, FotR and TTT on Sunday and RotK last night. Although I've seen all three films numerous times, I've not managed to watch them together before. If you ever get the chance to watch them in one go, try it - together they are truly epic. It still amazes me the level of detail that was put into these films with the costumes and scenery. The scale of it too - when you see the Rohhirim arrive at the Battle of Pelinnor Fields, there are so many of them. It really struck me this time though, that although they seemed such a large army, that was almost their entire population of fighting men. Watching the slaughter as they were shot down by orcish arrows or smashed by Mumakil, it made me realise how empty their halls would be afterwards.
I too have had occasion to do the whole thing with my family every year or so, I could not take it mentally any oftener, neither can i bear to be inactive that long for any reason but being in a coma or having two broken legs! But once a year, it is heaven.
I agree the work done is spectacular and intricate and detailed and but for the directors, etc we would have to just see it in our own imaginations. I hope to be clear on that score. I just hate messing about with order and who said what and cutting out crucial things as well as making up things or creating emnity between peoples that never existed . That to me is a real blow to the integrity of and fifteen years work of a person who managed it between tragedy and overwork, sickness, bereavement. I know as a writer I would hate that so much and feel literally as ill over it as I would if a child of mine were operated on and their entire appearance was changed simply because the surgeon did not like the way the child's features were put together. I cannot get past that. So, if i look at it as just another story with many points pilfered from the real thing I can enjoy it a great deal. Sigh.............it is how i am.
Already a big fan of the books I was expecting a disappointment. I had seen, years ago (in the 1970s?), a really rubbishy animated film, and wondered how the new film makers could get everything in. The first bit of the film was not a good start, big Sauron came on like a mighty power ranger bad guy and I thought, oh no, oh dear. But from that point on it was absolutely brilliant. I know bits have been missed out, and altered here and there (a shame) but all in all I was quite blown away by the quality, techniques and detail, art and landscapes and models. At the end I had to watch all the credits because I was so moved by the fantastic film making that I had a little cry and didn't much want my family to know that. I have never felt so emotional about the quality of a film before or since.
The first time I saw the movie I was too young to understand it, but I read the FotR recently I enjoyed it, but I didn't like the fact that it took half the book for them to get to Rivendell. But I sill love the books and movies nonetheless.
I went to watch it to a local movie theater when the movie came out, and if I remember correctly, I was like 11 during that time. It was a magnificent experience, and I had read Tolkien's books long before that. I wonder why I don't read that much these days, though I really should. 
But back to the movie: I was pretty impressed by it all. Best in it was and has always been the music. Pretty awesome movie to watch at that age.
And even back then, I didn't blame PJ for making the movie more or less different than the book version goes. He even cutted some parts and maybe added some of his own ideas to the pot (don't ask why: 'pot'
, but in my opinion, he did a good job and he also succeeded with the other two parts as well. And when I left the theater, with epic scores of TFOTR ranging loudly inside my head and all of the memorable scenes safely in my memory, I can tell that I was more than just satisfied.
That's all I've to say about it. 