You know what's really curious? I've been thinking about that too! But I didn't know there was a site out here where you could learn it, so I dunno...
But I heard Liv Tyler and Orlando Bloom in an interview, an they were talking Elvish to each other!!! Now I wondered: where can I learn this? So good question, Halo! But I'm afraid I can't help you. If anyone does, post here, please please please do so!
*reading

I'm just going to check it ou, but thanks anyway, chika!
I just checked it out, and it's pretty good... There's also Elven font there, and the language of Mordor and stuff... Cool! Thanks!!!

When I learn how to chop these topics in the middle, the bottom of this one will be going into a pub be titled 'The Great Cuddly Badger Wars'.

[Edited on 5/1/2002 by Grondmaster]

Sorry! Couldn't chop topics in half so am now hacking away the deadwood post by post and your fun words are going, going, gone.

Please take your Off-Topic chatty posts to a Tavern so you don't lose them in the future. [Edited on 12/1/2002 by Grondmaster]

A lady Arwen should know that!
On the site above there are dictionaries available, but they only contain words that are often used in the Tolkien books, the obvious ones. I'm still looking for books or audio cassettes to learn it, so any help would come in hand...

You're welcome. The book does exist on tapes, you know? You only have to find out which ones are the good ones. Shouldn't be too hard...

I used a book called "The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-Earth" by Ruth S. Noel, it was helpful.

The site that Amarie gave is the best one out there to learn Quenya or Sindarin.

I would also like to learn elvish as well but with learning Spanish as of now, that may not be a great idea. but I shall try and hope that all goes well!! wish me luck!!

Seeing as how I never answered the last part of the Ringfacwen's question here, it is now being answered in Trans. from Elvish, please (spoiler) under The Two Towers.

These sites all sound really good! Halo_Black, if you are interested in Tolkien's alphabets we have a section here about them I found very interesting, under Alphabet which is listed under JRR Tolkien. Ghan, nice to see you posting, I enjoy talking to you in chat.

Sheryl posted on 28/1/2003 at 23:48 under Author under J.R.R. Tolkien

Also http://www.jadro.cz/tengwar/index.php lets you download a free application for translating into Tengwar. Get it now, it kicks a**!

(Just a little word adjustment by Rednell)

[Edited on 29/1/2003 by Rednell]

I've just downloaded the introduction, all of the lessons, the keys and the vocabulary from the above site. And WOAW! That someone took time to acctually write everything down! I'm impressed!
Let's just hope I find this easy to understand.. I really ant to be able to speak quenya!

This sounds like a game, so you may start it in the Ivy Bush Tavern with our other fun games. Might I suggest calling it The Translation Game: Quenya to English, of course if you can think of something more original feel free.

Sounds like fun! I know I'd play.

I think i am going to have to check out that site plus the Grondy's game. They both sound great.

Your English is fine Thingol

There is no way I could converse in Spanish the way you do in English. I am very impressed with everyone that posts here when I discover that their native language is not English.

I wanna know if you REALLY LEARN elvish in these sites, because I think it doesn't work at all...

I'm intrested on that how and where did Tolkien make the elvish language...I'm heard about the baltic language- he made the elvish language on them but still I'm wondering...excpecially because it is a VERY beatuiful language I would like that some country would own that language ...there was a site where I once found the elvish dictionary...I guess it was www.elvish.org- atleast I think so

I know some elvish.

i like Elvish, such beautiful language, they should really teach it in skools (hey this is a planet right maybe we should have our own language, hmmm Quenya or Sindarin hehe)

Unfortunately, with the second site, the two dots under a consonant can only be used for a following consonantal Y. It also fails to mention that in most examples of English (and English names) being written in the tengwar, the vowels are placed over the following consonant, not the preceding one.

As for courses, Thorsten Renk offers some for Quenya, Sindarin, and Ad’naic. I think the courses have been additionally translated into other languages, such as French, for the ease of other users. He has many articles that are worth seeing, also, on his site Parma Tyelpelassiva, such as about Quenya (pronouns, the past tense, and compounds), Sindarin (word reconstruction, mutation, the verb and case systems, pronouns), Noldorin (intensifying prefixes, compounds, early plural patterns), grammars for Goldogrin and early Qenya, agental suffixes/gender distinction, using the verb 'to be' in Elvish, and impersonal constructions. Songs, cartoons, poems, and other things are available as well.

Ardhon Ellammath, 'Realm of the Elf-languages', is a wonderful resource for pronouncing Sindarin, and it also lists recordings of several known texts in Sindarin, Quenya, Khuzd’l, Telerin, Noldorin, and the Black Speech. It can be found here.

So,,,,,,then you are a scholar now in Elvish dear Loss?
sigh........I long to be able to read and write it,but it seems so very complicated and difficult and I am in the middle of relearning Spanish, Hebrew and learning Russian and I am worried I will end up speaking a combination and have peoples from several different countries trying to kill me for grave insults I m ake unwittingly.
I admire that you can do that.
Do you teach classes on line or something?

All of you should check this one out it is quite good

http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar/df20.html

it is a dictionary but you can use it to write in sindarin quenya and blackspeech