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Hello Elladan here.

I am 18, from the UK and didnt notice this thread, until just now.

I am a big Tolkien fan and cant wait to get out my pointy ears and cloak for the Hobbit premier.

PS. Poole is awsome, loving the squirrels.
Hi Elladan, its a great forum isn't it.. Im new here myself.. Hope you have lots of fun..

Galadriel2911 <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
Hi Elledan,nice to meet you. It's great that more Brits are joining the forum. Yeah the squirrels in Poole are cute. The last time I was back I also saw some red foxes near my Grandma's grave site. What part of Britain are you from?

Hey, Tuor here. I am 14, found about Tolkien's writing last year and cannot find enough to fill my desire. I long for the Eldar days and the lost island of Numenore.
I'm old bloke from Australia (probabaly about the same age as Bilbo was when he took off on his adventures). Huge fan since about 1973 when I first stumbled across The Hobbit. Hooked ever since. Started me writing fantasy. Good to see the fan base is still growing!
Nice to meet another "Old Fogey" Odo <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> (though I guess I'm a wee bit younger than you). I like hanging out with all the "youngsters" here though. Helps keep the mind sharp :lol: .

Dear Mr Beard,

I almost used the term "Old Fogey" when I logged in. Is it a worldwide term? And, you know, it sounds quite Hobbitish in a way. One wonders: was there ever a Hobbit called "Old Fogey"? Maybe he was a cooper from Needlehole in the North Farthing; a Stoor, heavy set, feet on the ground, and grumpy to boot! Can't find him anywhere in the Red Book though...


(NB I tried to send another post but I don't know what happened to it. Maybe I hit the wrong button? Maybe it'll turn up mysteriously? (Computer literate - ah... no....)
I like you Odo <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> . I'm not sure where I would classify myself on the "Youngster" to "Old Fogey" scale... huh. Never really thought about it :oops: .

[i:2sc8gury]Anyhow[/i:2sc8gury], great to have you on the forums Odo, for an Old Fogey you got Style 8-) .

EDIT: Also note this is my Fortieth post... just another reason to like Odo? :lol:
Hello Odo,
I am originally from Merry Olde England, expatriated to the Good Ol' US of A as a laddie. So I'm not entirely certain as to where I first heard the term "Old Fogey". But I expect it is (was?) common in all three countries, UK, USA, and Oz (I hope you don't mind my affectionately using that term for your country. I have always loved the associations with Baum's famous books, which were some of my favourites alongside Tolkien's and Lewis's).

As to your technical issues, I suspect Cyber-Gremlins <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> (my tech savvy diagnosis :roll: ).

Hi Odo, and welcome! I think I'm probably one of the younger members here, but I've always liked the diversity in age - among other factors - that the internet brings. :mrgreen: I hope you have fun here!

Durin - congrats!
Three cheers on your 40 post "anniversary" Durin <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> .

I see we have missed welcoming one of the younger new members of the forum :oops: . My apologies to [b:de9ldjn2]Tuor[/b:de9ldjn2]. If you're somewhere lurking in the Cyber-Ether: welcome, and please come back and visit from time to time :mrgreen: .

Thanks for the welcome Ye all and Thou all,

Hey! As soon as I saw 'Oz' mentioned, I thought of Gandalf.

What would we call Gandalf if he left Valinor and moved Downunder?
(HINT: He wouldn't be the Wizard of Middle Earth no more).

I'm now thinking how nice it would be if he might be released from his current duties (I presume they're light!) in Valinor, so he could come and stay awhile at my house? I'd love to hear all about what Bilbo and Frodo omitted from History. Imagine this: "The Lord of the Rings: Unabridged." (Come on"! We all know the book was too short!)

Superb idea, I reckon, Gandalf coming down here! And quite safe too, since the world has apparently 'rounded' since the Fourth Age, so it'll be quite safe - he won't fall off.

Gotta go. I have basketball coaching to do... Maybe catch up later, hey?

Thanks again One and All,
Pleased to meet you,
Etcetera and etcetera,

(Hobbits aren't built for basketball - but surely they can coach?!?!
G'day all.

Mr Durin,
You quoted Confucius in your post. Made me wonder where China is in relation to Middle Earth. If so - I wonder where exactly. Beyond Khand somewhere maybe? Or Near Harad? It may have been known (if known) by a different name back in the Fourth Age one thinks.

Mr Tuor,
It's interesting your spelling of Tolkien's N’menor. C.S Lewis I think used 'Numinor' or something like that in his Space Trilogy (I think it was Perelandra, Voyage to Venus and That Hideous Strength from memory). You use 'Numenore'. Same place, of course, and isn't this is a perfect example of how language evolves! (Just gagging!)

Mr Beard,
We have a bit of a problem with red foxes down here in Oz. I only hope we don't dispatch any descendants of that talking fox that spied Frodo, Sam and Pippin in the Shire that time! (C.S. Lewis would be aghast, I know, if that was the case!)

Mr Eldorion,
I can't see how I can fail to have fun talking over Middle-Earth stuff with other folk who appreciate T's great History. I certainly plan to!

Mr Moderator,
Would the following be a decent question for discussion:
"Is it best to read the Hobbit before LOTR, or doesn't it matter?" (I'm new to this 'posting' caper - has a similar topic already been discussed heaps of times?)

You see, I always feel a little sad for those who read LOTR first. I read The Hobbit about five (ten?) times before I even knew LOTR even existed. This was because I didn't read the blurb inside the front cover of my Hobbit where LOTR was mentioned. It was the version with T's drawing of Smaug over Laketown and there was no blurb on the back cover. So I didn't know LOTR even existed for about two more years. I spent those two years pining for another Hobbit tale! When a friend told me he had a copy of a 'new' Hobbit tale, well it was like - "What did you say? Another Hobbit book? What? It's more than a thousand pages long! All about Hobbits? Preposterous!" Talk about being surprised by joy (with apologies to C.S.)

Anyway, I've met a few folk who came to T's History by reading the Hobbit 'after' LOTR, and it sometimes seems they don't appreciate it with quite the same level of joy that folk like I did. The Hobbit, I confess, is still my favorite book - with LOTR a close second! I wonder, out of folk who prefer The Hobbit (ever so slightly) over LOTR, how many of you read The Hobbit first?

Mr Banks - I am certainly not a moderator, but as far as I know about "netiquette" you're perfectly entitled to start a discussion if you like. Additionally, I don't believe this issue has been discussed here yet. <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />

I agree with you entirely about reading [i:yr1ji0j0]The Hobbit[/i:yr1ji0j0] first, even though LOTR is my favorite of all Tolkien's works. I read [i:yr1ji0j0]The Hobbit[/i:yr1ji0j0] and [i:yr1ji0j0]The Lord of the Rings[/i:yr1ji0j0] back to back when I was quite young and I really enjoyed both, though I certainly did appreciate all the details of LOTR at that age. I've since gone back through both and gained a much deeper appreciation. I think that reading [i:yr1ji0j0]The Hobbit[/i:yr1ji0j0] first is good because it gives an introduction to hobbits and introduces several elements that reappear in LOTR.

It is also not quite as "epic" as LOTR, so I think people who read TH second might be disappointed by it if they were expecting something different.
Mr Eldorion,

Thank you for the reply.

I've just realized that there is a second box at the top of the page entitled "NEW TOPIC." Henceforth, if I think of something (possibly) interesting to say, I will click that particular box (is it known as an '’con', pray tell?), and in this way avoid clogging up the NEW MEMBER post with unrelated pearls of wisdom (or other)!

Thanks again!

Odo. (AKA "Mr Banks."Wink Smilie
My pleasure, Odo. I think that the New Topic box is more properly called a button, but the pictures beneath people's names would be icons (or avatars) ... I think. :lol:
Thanks Eldorion.

Your wisdom and courteous manner has, yet again, shone through.

You flatter me, Odo. <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' /> I'm glad I could help, and glad to see you posting all over the forum!
Yes Eldorion I've been jumping around like a cat on a hot tin roof. So many places to go. So many places to see.

Hey Tar-Palantir (nice name <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> ), welcome to the forum! What are you studying at University, if you don't mind saying?

Anyway, if you want Tolkien this is a good place to be, I've had some really fun discussions here and hope to have more. :mrgreen:
Hi, I'm Seb, I'm new here.
I just started university and I felt there was a huge lack of Tolkien in my life, so here I am. <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
Hi Tar Palantir. Welcome to the forum :mrgreen: . Lot of serious Tolkien fans here, so you've come to the right place :ugeek: .

Thanks for the welcome, I've been a Tolkien fan (or is the word addict...) for years now, and haven't been able to discuss it with anyone else who's as obsessed as I am since I was about 12 (I had read LOTR I think 3 but perhaps 4 times by then). I only read the Silmarillion about 4 years ago though, and I've read it twice more since then. I recently bought The Complete History of Middle Earth, which is sitting on my bookshelf <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' /> <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' /> <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
I'm studying sciences (Physics mostly) at uni, though if I'd found anywhere that did a course on Middle Earth I wouldn't have thought twice... <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />
'Addict' has such a negative connotation ... I prefer 'passionate'. :P It sounds like you've found a good place though. For me internet forums (both here and elsewhere) are the only way I've ever been able to have serious Tolkien discussions with people. It's a lot of fun. :mrgreen: BTW, are you referring to the 12-volume [i:2am7vg6o]History of Middle-earth[/i:2am7vg6o] series? I have all the volumes except VI, VII, and VIII, but I'd like to get those some time.

The sciences are always fun, though I didn't get far in Physics myself because I'm not great at the math (the rest of it for conceptual physics was great even for me though 8-) ). I get what you mean about a Middle-earth class, I'd love to have one that's a combination of English, History, Sociology, Political Science, etc., etc. :ugeek:
Hi all

Poor Knight here from Australia.

I was pretty active years ago in the LOTR forum before FOTR came out...and I felt it was time to start following the latest news and discussions on the Hobbit as well. <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />

Look forward to some interesting discussions with everyone in the leadup to the movies!
Welcome to the forum PK :mrgreen: . Definitely a lot of speculation here at the moment, but soon we hope to be discussing actual film-making decisions.

Also, Welcome Silver Dragon(s). Good luck on your goals of joining the film production. I hope you stick around and join the discussions too.

Hello, we are Order Of The Silver Dragon - medieval reenactment group form Croatia
Welcome SilverDragon! Your group is most impressive, and I hope you'll stick around and participate here. <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
Is there really such a dearth of entries since October, or am I somehow just not seeing them? I've read all the entries on this thread up through Oct 29, 2009, which is the last I see.

Like some others, I've sent a submission to another thread before I saw the New Members one--but it's all interesting. I'm Jim, in sunny and warm southern Arizona. I read The Hobbit and LOTR right on its heels, back in 1965--I have one of the first printings of them both, by Ballantine. I had heard about them while I was at the University, but had to wait for the paperbacks. Since then I've gathered several other published versions; in fact I wore out one full set. I thought the Hobbit was clearly overtaken by LOTR, maybe because I was more interested in the adult tale there; however, I fully expect that the movie of TH will project more of the adult story than the children's book.

I've read the Silmarillion, Children of Hurin, several of the history books, but I keep going back to both TH and LOTR, which I've read nine times over the years. My daughter says I've hooked her on it too--she's read it nearly that many times. The unabridged CDs have been great while driving, though I've found a number of minor differences from the books. And I prefer reading the books anyway.

And let's not have any more of this Old Fogey talk--around these parts we're known as Old Farts! :lol:
Welcome to the new Old Fart on the block :lol: . Greetings Huskidawg :mrgreen: .

A lot of people start their own Newbie threads here in the New Members subforum. It's ended up becoming a de facto "chat" forum for off-topic discussions which you will find on a number of the "Hi There" threads :roll: . So you will find newer postings on those other threads. But most of the action is in The Hobbit sub-forum right now, though posting has been a little light over The Holidays.

Happy Posting 8-)
Hi from Australia. I am a huge fan of LOTR - I even went to Wellington, New Zealand to join in the ROTK Premiere festivities in 2003. Best fun I've had in my life! <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
I'm an artist, and I've painted lots of pictures of LOTR characters over the past six years...Mostly Frodo, but also many of the other characters.
I LOVE the book of The Hobbit and look forward to seeing the movies...I feel confident that they will be as marvellous as LOTR...Can't wait!
I also look forward to having a chat every now and then with fellow Hobbit aficionados. <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
Welcome, Frodosmum! We have a good deal of chatting going around here so I'm sure you can jump in. If you want to share some of your artwork with us we have a Artwork thread in the "Other Fantasy Stories" forum that might interest you.

Happy posting! :mrgreen:
Thank you very much for the welcome, Eldorion. Yes, I'd love to share some art with everyone. I'll check out the Artwork thread later. <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' border='0' alt='Smile Smilie' />
Greetings everyone!

I am a devoted fan of Tolkien and his works, i was enchanted by the Lord of the Rings novels and movies, i instantly became a huge fan, im glad to be part of this forum and i hope to have conversations with fellow members!
Welcome Istari :mrgreen: . It's great to have another Ozzie on the forum.

Hi everyone I'm Dwalin,
I'm from Sydney, Australia and like all of you I'm a big fan of the tolkien works, and I'm eager to discuss lotr and the hobbit with, fellow readers.
Welcome Dwalin! I think you're in a good place as a big Tolkien fan, I look forward to seeing you in the discussions! :mrgreen:
Hail !! dwellers of middle-earth and beyond !

I am John, I come from Edinburgh, Scotland and am an avid student of the ways of JRR !
I hope to meet some like minded folks and hear their opinions of the great mans work.

Much respect to all the members and friends who hope, like me, that film makers will hearken
to us and do it right !!

Hail !! Manwe.
Hail! :P Welcome to the forum.
Great Scot!!! Another Scot :mrgreen: . For some reason I feel like we've already met <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' /> . Nice to see you made it to this thread.

ELDO <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' /> ! You're back. Where have you been. Whilst you've been gone, Odo, Petty Tyrant and I have made rather a mess all over the forum :lol: . I must say, Petty is quite holding up the Purist Flag in your absence.

Thankyou all. I look forward to your views on all things Tolkien
and will lean on your guidance as we try to fight the good fight !!

Hail !! Manwe.
It's a long story. GB. :roll: The main thing is that my laptop has been vacationing in the land of the Best Buy service center for about three weeks so I'm limited to when I can get on a school computer or when I feel like fighty with my Qwerty keyboard to make it work. :lol: I've also been working to find my rhythm for the new semester, had some personal stuff going on ... well, I'm sure you know how it goes. I'm glad I wasn't forgotten here, though I'm sorry for disappearing. :oops: I'll make an effort to start posting here more again.

Off to go see where I can stick my puristy nose now that I'm back.... :mrgreen:
Well it's good to have you back Eldo. I quite understand how life (and persnickety computers) can intervene.

I'm glad of that. :mrgreen: Knowing that people remember me here really made my day (and it needed making after German [i:1oczahyv]and[/i:1oczahyv] Statistics class :lol: ). I feel like I'm glowing as much as the computer monitor. <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
I would kill all Statisticians if I had my way. Unfortunately, I've been told by [i:ayhlfgnm]some [/i:ayhlfgnm]people that that would be an excessive reaction. When I offered to keep a count of any kills, and even divide them up by Sex, Age and Country (to ease consciences) it still did no good. So there will be no purges, I'm afraid.

But I did my best, Eldo!
Thanks for the support. :lol:
Hi, I wonder if its always possible to do the Extra casting and if it is, How I have to make to apply? I've ever ask in an other forum and I can't find the website of Wingnut Films to contact them...Thanks for your aswers.
As far as I know nobody here is working on the movies. I doubt you're going to get a different answer just by asking a third time. Try to get in touch with the actual filmmakers. <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' border='0' alt='Wink Smilie' />
Hi everybody!my name is Jasmine and I'm 17 years old!my English is awful :oops: :cry: so don't laugh at my posts OK?
I love LOTR!this is my whole life...specially Legolas.he was my favorite character in the movie.and I wish to see him in the hobbit movie I really missed him with his bow!
I'm intrested in fantasy movies and books...I have nothing else to say... <img src='/images/smileys/bigsmile.gif' border='0' alt='Big Smile Smilie' />
Life is easy with eyes closed.... Channelling Strawberry Fields (Beatles), Legolas Greenleaf? Or have I got my quotes wrong? (Beatles are my favorite all time band!)

Anyhow, welcome to the forum!
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