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Does Ozzys daughter go out her way to make her self ugly or what!, some of the photos ive seen her in make her look bl**dy hidious.

Big Laugh Smilie That she does! Big Laugh Smilie
Welcome to Rangerhood Ringfacwen! Big Smile Smilie

You have a lot of concerts to go to!
I am SOOOOOOOOO glad that SOOOOOOOOOOO many of you are YES fans. I'm not a huge prog rock lover, although I do enjoy it but Yes is my favorite group over a lot of other VERY different bands.

I was so excited when I attended my first concert that I was completely overwhelmed and had to pull over to puke on the way home. Elf Sticking Tounge Out Smilie

I think that the whole progrock genre lends itself well to literature like is huge and majestic and the words go deep.

Whoopie!!! I managed to download Grendel by Marillion today. I've been after it for ages, ever since my old 12" EP version became too scratched to play properly. Now I've got a beautiful shiny CD version.

Val has a huge grin across his face (as he also pulled down Nantucket Sleighride by Mountain)
Val! You like Marillion? I was introduced to Marillion through Dream Theater (DT has done shows with them) and have been a fan ever since. The problem is that it's near impossible to find their albums in music stores here. I have This Strange Engine and Six of One, A Half Dozen of the Other (I think it had a different title in the UK.. anyway, it's a collection of singles from 1992).

I haven't heard this Grendel song you're talking about but I take it that it's good. I'll see if I can track it down. I've searched Marillion on Kazaa before but came up empty handed.

musicimprovedme and I discovered last night in the chat room that we both have similar tastes in music... including Yes. And she likes Kansas! Woohoo!

I wrote down all the lyrics to The Wall, musicimprovedme... I thought I'd post them here since we both love them so much Big Smile Smilie This is the stereotypical "Song about hope". I confessed to getting choked up by the lyrics and the melody... but it really, really must be heard to be appreciated.

The Wall by Kansas

I'm woven in a fantasy, I can't believe the things I see
The path that I have chosen now has led me to a wall
And with each passing day I feel a little more like something dear was lost

It rises now before me, a dark and silent barrier between,
All I am, and all that I would ever want be
It's just a travesty
Towering, marking off the boundaries my spirit
would erase

To pass beyond is what I seek, I fear that I may be too weak
And those are few who've seen it through to glimpse the other side,
The promised land is waiting like a maiden that is soon to be a bride

The moment is a masterpiece, the weight of indecision's in the air...
Standing there, the symbol and the sum of all that's me
It's just a travesty
Towering, blocking out the light and blinding me
I want to see...

Gold and diamonds cast a spell, it's not for me I know it well
The riches that I seek are waiting on the other side
There's more that I can measure in the treasures of the love that I can find

And though it's always been with me
I must tear down The Wall and let it be...
All I am, and all that I was ever meant to be
in harmony
Shining true and smiling back at all who wait to cross
There is no loss...

[Edited on 2/5/2003 by ProgHead777]
Technically we should all like Marillion, seeing as they are one of the very few bands out there named after Tolkien's work (yes, true story, they just didn't like the Sil part) unfortunately, I think they're very very dull. Though I like Fish, he's a very funny guy. Lavenders Blue dilly dilly indeed...
Fish is a top bloke, he's completely of his trolley. You also have to find the fact that loads of people named the baby girls after a song that they did!
Val! You like Marillion?
I'd rephrase that to say I like early Marillion. Their first couple of albums, in my opinion, carried on where Genesis left off just after Peter Gabriel left them. Once Fish stopped painting his face, however, and they released Misplaced Childhood, I think they went really dull.

Their first two albums, Script for a jester's tear, and Fugazi are really good. Grendel, as far as I know was never on an album but appeared on the B-side of the Market Square Heroes 12" EP (which was released prior to Script for a jester's tear). The EP, by the way, could almost class itself as an album because Grendel is almost 20 minutes long and the two tracks on the other side are around 12-13 minutes between them.

Try looking on LimeWire. That's where I found them.
I noticed a definite change in Marillion's sound while listening to the singles compilation I mentioned earlier. I actually like all of it, but that's just me... I like almost everything anyway Big Laugh Smilie

Earlier songs that I've heard, like "Garden Party" and "Assassing" are rather interesting. Sort of Progressive New Wave or something. I really like songs I've heard off Misplaced Childhood and on, like "Kayleigh", "Easter", "Lavender" and, my favorite, "The Uninvited Guest"... utterly hilarious lyrics on that one.

I can see why they put off their earlier fans because they became much more Hard Rock-ish. But I think This Strange Engine (1997 or so) is fantastic and is really the album that turned me into a Marillion fan. Definitely more Prog-ish, IMHO. Then again, I haven't heard much of their early material.

You say they remind you of Peter Gabriel era Genesis? The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot are among my favorite Classic Prog albums, ever.
Rhodry there what's calssed as wuz rock!
My stepfather bought a new CD a while back and let me borrow it yesterday. It's Bruce Springsteen's The Rising and it is absolutely fantastic. Now, I was never a Springsteen fan. His older music I've always found to be a little bland for my tastes but this new disc is anything but bland.

Songs like "Lonesome Day", "Into The Fire", "Nothing Man" and "My City of Ruins" are destined classics. Actually, the whole disc is destined to be a classic. I recommend it highly, even to those who aren't Springsteen fans.

"Into The Fire" by Bruce Springsteen

The sky was falling and streaked with blood
I heard you calling me,
Then you disappeared into the dust
Up the stairs, into the fire
Up the stairs, into the fire
I need your kiss,
But love and duty called you someplace higher
Somewhere up the stairs, into the fire

May your strength give us strength
May your faith give us faith
May your hope give hope
May your love give us love

You gave your love to see,
In fields of red and autumn brown
You gave your love to me and lay your young body down
Up the stairs, into the fire
Up the stairs, into the fire
I need you near,
But love and duty called you someplace higher
Somewhere up the stairs, into the fire

May your strength give us strength
May your faith give us faith
May your hope give hope
May your love bring us love

It was dark, too dark to see, you held me in the light you gave
You lay your hand on me
Then walked into the darkness of your smoky grave
Up the stairs, into the fire
Up the stairs, into the fire
I need your kiss, but love and duty called you someplace higher
Somewhere up the stairs, into the fire

May your strength give us strength
May your faith give us faith
May your hope give hope
May your love bring us love

May your love bring us love

Very Sad Smilie

[Edited on 2/8/2003 by ProgHead777]
Yeah it gets crazy when the mosh pits start going, just make sure you don't get dropped! Big Laugh Smilie
Pixies and Queens of the stoneage rocks too!
Prog you are from NJ and you are not a Springsteen fan? That's kind of surprising!

I moshed at a Kiss concert once...I got close enough that I swear Gene Simmons did that tongue thing in my general direction. woohoo!
I dunno... Springsteen just never did it for me. But this new album is just fantastic.

I got dragged into a mosh pit against my will at a Dream Theater concert... I got the tar beat outta me, but you shoulda seen the other guy Big Laugh Smilie
Springsteen just plain sucks, really, truly, did you hear about the time Alice Cooper and Keith Moon made him drink Vodka out of his boots? That's funny. And yeah, i did hear Lonesome day, and he still sucks.

Jethro Tull on the other hand are one of my favourite bands ever, you have great taste Rhodry, definitely.
Your taste is less discriminating than I thought, lose 2 ponts. Wink Smilie
Springsteen Big Laugh Smilie need I say more!

I just downloaded Planet Funk Chase the Sun, but whilst surching for it I kept getting country and christian ska, waaaaghhh! Tongue Smilie
Thanx Ross, I'd forgotten about Chase the Sun; I might have to download it now. [Heads for Kazaa, whistling the catchy tune] Tongue Smilie
Any Metallica fans 'round here? Word has it that their next album, St. Anger, will come as a pleasant surprise to long time fans. It's been compared to bands like Meshuggah and Hatebreed (Which are in turn, HEAVILY influenced by EARLY Metallica. kick ***! *bangs head*) and Lars said the owner of a German record label described St. Anger as "commercial suicide." Sounds like all good news to me... Big Smile Smilie

Meanwhile, they've got themselves a new bass player: Rob Trujillo, ex Suicidal Tendencies and Ozzy Osbourne.

If you're a 'tallica fan or just a casual admirer or whatever, checkout their site, if you haven't already:

I highly recommend signing up for the Jump in the Studio thingy (it's free)... there's a few hours worth of studio footage and band interviews available via streaming video through windows media player or real player. Lots of hints of what's to come and some hilarious Lars Ulrich/Kirk Hammett babble sessions.

are you telling me that the 'tallica are going to start being good again, after 12 years of sucking? I reserve judgement until after somebody tapes me a copy of the new album. (Haven't bought one since the Black album upset me so much).
I can't for the life of me figure out what some people's problem with the Black album is. Slower and less complicated but heavier than... well, pretty much anything before or since. Maybe the sound is too heavy? Do you find it annoying that you can actually HEAR the bass guitar? Listen to ...And Justice for All and I challenge you to pick out the bass lines... not to mention Lars' drums sound like they're made of plastic and cardboard.

That's not to say I think Justice is a bad album... I would rank it above Black actually... it's just that I think production values on Black are leaps and bounds above anything that came before it.

But just so there's no confusion, here's my breakdown starting with my favorite:

1. Master of Puppets (The ultimate metal mastepiece... "all is fair for Damage Inc. you see... step a little closer if you please")
2. Ride the Lightning (The Call of Ktulu... *goosebumps*)
3. ...And Justice for All ("Darkness, imprisoning me, all that I see, absolute horror...")
4. Metallica (the Black album... blowing out speakers since 1991...)
5. Kill 'em All
6. Garage Inc.
7. Load (yes, I think it had a couple good songs on it... The Outlaw Torn for example)
8. S&M (waste of money, except for For Whom the Bell Tolls and No Leaf Clover)
9. Reload- (really shabby... Fuel was okay... good lyrics on The Memory Remains but the "la di da" part with Marianne Faithful got old pretty quick)

The first five are pretty much carved in stone. The last four fluctuate frequently. Who knows, if St. Anger lives up to the hype, I may forget about those last four altogether.

1)Ride the Lightning
2)Kill 'Em All
3)Master of Puppets
4)And Justice for all

and they didn't do any more albums after that did they? They vanished and were replaced by sucky people who sell out and do rubbish music.

Amusingly enough I went to see them at Donnington just after the cursed Black album came out, and due to my hatred of it, I ignored half the set and turned my back on the stage in protest.
Rick Wakeman's playing King's Lynn next month. Anyone heard any of his recent stuff? Is he worth forking out ’15 to go and see now days (considering I paid just ’3.50 to see him in 1982)?
I don't think it's worth going to see anyone who is the compare for Jongeleurs, but that's just my opinion becuase I think he's a bit pants. But if you like what's the worst that can happen you've lost 15 quid!
I just wanted to pay my respects to someone in the music world that I personally have a tremendous amount of respect for, her name was Nina Simone, and she passed away yesterday at her home in France at the age of 70. Nina was typically classified as a jazz (and is a legend in that genre) artist, but her style was really far too diverse to be categorized as she covered everything from gospels to Gershwin. Nina was a piano prodigy at the age of 4, and she attended the famed Julliard School of music, which was a rare opportunity for a black woman in the 1950’s.

Nina recorded her first record in 1959 at the age of 26, and had her first hit with ’ I Loves You, Porgy’ from the classic George, and Ira Gershwin musical Porgy, and Bess. She is also well known for a number of other songs (whose titles I won’t mention here) that marked her as a very outspoken voice of protest during the civil rights movement. Her signature song was called ’To Be Young, Gifted, and Black’, and was inspired by the Lorraine Hansberry play.

Throughout the 1960s and early '70s, she delved deeply into popular songs, seeking new meaning and emotion to tunes such as Screaming Jay Hawkins' ’I Put a Spell on You’, George Harrison's ’My Sweet Lord’ and ’Ain't Got No/I Got Life’ from the musical Hair. Her influence was also undeniable during the British invasion in the 1960’s, as Eric Burdon, and the Animals scored top 40 hits with remakes of her songs like ’The House of the Rising Sun’, and ’Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood’.

Nina was as eclectic of an artist as they come, turning every song that she did into an expression of self so precise, and so revealing, that it seemed like every song she sang had its origins from deep inside her, earning her the moniker ’The High Priestess of Soul’. If you have never heard of her (and no offense, but I’m quite sure most people around here haven’t), and want to hear a real artist (unlike most people, or bands on the radio nowadays who can’t play their way out of a paper sack), do yourself a favor, and go pick up a couple of her records! I listened to you this morning Nina! You will be sorely missed, but your music, and tremendous influence will never be forgotten! God Bless!

I also want to give props to my personal favorite bass player of all time Mr. Charles Mingus who would have been 81 today!
Elf Smilie
Well said, post of the week! (in the music thread)
Pssssst... if it had been MY week, it would have been, knackers to everyone else, I love Nina Simone. Don't tell the council though...
When is it your week next, we'll get Elfstone to post it again! Wink Smilie
Thanks guys, I appreciate that! I just had to pay my respects. If one person out there who didn’t know about Nina sees that post, and discovers her music, then it was well worth it!
Elf Smilie
St. Anger cover art:


Can you say "METAL"? Orc Grinning Smilie

[Edited on 5/3/2003 by ProgHead777]
No???Elf With a Big Grin Smilie
If anyone's interested, here's a link to a 30 second sound clip of "Frantic" from St. Anger:

The sound quality is awful but it's clear enough to hear that this will be 'tallica's most brutal album to date... if anyone cares. Here's to beating a dead horse? Big Laugh Smilie
That sort of reminds me of that old joke. I'm into Sado-Masacism, Necrophilia and Bestiallity. So you could say I'm flogging a dead horse! Tongue Smilie
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now that thats said :P

time to show some of my favorite music..

Well I used to wake the morning before the rooster crowed
Searching for soda bottles to get myself some dough
Brought 'em down to the corner, down to the country store
Cash 'em in and give my money to a man named Curtis Loew

Old Curt was a black man with white curly hair
When he had a fifth of wine he did not have a care
He used to own an old dobro, used to play it across his knee
I'd give old Curt my money, he'd play all day for me

Play me a song Curtis Loew, Curtis Loew
I got your drinking money, tune up your dobro
People said he was useless, them people are the fools
'Cause Curtis Loew was the finest picker to ever play the blues

He looked to be sixty, and maybe I was ten
Mama used to whip me but I'd go see him again
I'd clap my hands, stomp my feets, try to stay in time
He'd play me a song or two
Then take another drink of wine.


Yes sir

On the day old Curtis died, nobody came to pray
Ol' preacher said some words, and they chunked him in the clay
But he lived a lifetime playin' the black man's blues
And on the day he lost his life, that's all he had to lose

Play me a song Curtis Loew, Hey Curtis Loew
I wish that you was here so everyone would know
People said he was useless, them people all are fools
'Cause Curtis you're the finest picker to ever play the blues
Lynyrd Skynyrd- Ballad of Curtis Loew, off Second Helping if I'm not mistaken Gimli? Now why couldn't you have posted that in the music game.... good taste by the way.
uh.. I dont know.. because I forgotted too Sad Smilie

and thanx.. I love Lynyrd Skynyrd!!! not to sure on the album though.. i know a lot of their songs.. but mostly off of hits collection types, i dont think I have any of their true albums....
Time to revive this thread.

Umm... Tool are great! Evanescence should be shot! Tongue Smilie

That's my attempt at a contribution.
eyy, now I don’t really know what this thread is about but Evanescence is one of my fav bnds and they should not be shot!
Bands like Iron Maiden should be though (sorry if there’s someone here worshiping them) Wink Smilie
Oi watch it my first ever single was Iron Maiden run to the hills. Oh yes, Evanescence suck big time Wink Smilie
Time to revive this thread.

Umm... Tool are great! Evanescence should be shot! Tongue Smilie

That's my attempt at a contribution.

Heh, I'm with you guys. I love Tool, and I can't tell the difference between one Evanescence song and the next. Amusingly enough, we had the album on in the car not so long ago, and when I asked my gf if the song playing was the single, she said yes, it then transpired that it wasn't, proving that even those who like them cannot tell the difference between their songs.
Looks like we're winning and just to keep it that way. Anyone below the age of 16, their opinion doesn't count when it comes to music as they will most likely change their minds in a couple of years. Unless of course you have always been in to good music, like me! Tongue Smilie
ok now that’s mean Ross! and honestly I need someone to help me out in this topic...sure Iron Maiden has been in the buisness for a very long time and it was dumb of me to say what I did just cuz i don’t like metal. But that dosn’t mean you guys have to say those things about Evanescence! You saw what Aster wrote right? What he said makes a really good point!
But you're forgeting one important point. i'm always right, even when I'm wrong!
Plus no offence Aster but thats completely out of character for you and wussy mediator language! Wink Smilie Tongue Smilie
lol, yeah right Ross! Noone is perfect which means that you’re not either which also means that noone can always be right even if they’re wrong. (ok, now I’m upset so everything I say comes out understanable) Tongue Smilie Wink Smilie
I think that Evanescence is ok. I am not a big fan of their's but I can see that they have talent. Their music has a good beat and is a lot better than some of the stuff out there. And they aren't someone making it big by just roaring expletives at the top of his/her lungs.
Evanescence is just commercial food for the kiddies out there, like Pepsi and Pizza Hut. And i am not even mentioning MacDonalds.

To each its own : whether u listen to it or not, is one's own business. I know i won't.
And they aren't someone making it big by just roaring expletives at the top of his/her lungs.
You mean junk like Slipknott or korn. They really do suck. But then again Avril Lavigne doesn't swear but she's still manufactured pap rock!
No, I don't like Avril Lavigne, she is just irritating. Cool Smilie
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