[quote="Gorthaur":3tc14wb7]Hey everyone, I'm new, it's great to see so many Tolkien enthusiasts (dare I say evangelists).
Expectations of the films???
Well I think the Witch-King idea is terrific as the antagonist (in a prospective Dol Guldur sub-plot). It would be especially intersting if the White Council is shown or Gandalf/Saruman talking over the dark power in Mirkwood and how they believe it's the witch-king, that is until Gandalf is captured and the witch-king could reveal the real power - Sauron (cue forboding music).
How could this be revealed to Gandalf and establish Sauron as a real threat without a confusing carporial appearance?
- The witch-king could show Gandalf a Palintir with the Great Eye appearing, maybe a couple if words from Sauron perhaps?
I think this establishes two things:
- Lotr showed the audience the palintir was dangerous and corrupting (eg. Sauron, Saruman, Denethor, Merry, Aragorn, etc.) therefore Sauron's presence captured in the palintir visage is ominous and adds credibility to his perpetual control of the dark forces, (without making Sauron seem like a cheesy suit of armour).
- A palintir scene will add weight to Gandalf's berating of its use when Saruman reveals one to him in FotR, thus solidifying Saruman's corruption.
Somehow (without a Great Eye) PJ can encapsulate Sauron's evil in the Dol Guldur castle like a dark aura (swirling clouds, a beam of red light perhaps similar to Minas Morgul in RotK). Perhaps it can be said somewhere in the film (outside Tolkien canon, which is not hard for a filmic interpretation) that Sauron's evil/power was so great he cannot return to physical form and therefore grounded himself in these dark super-structures (Dol Guldur, Barad-Dur) that were capable of maintaing and manifesting that life-force. This would explain the need for the Mouth of Sauron, one who could interpret the word of Sauron from the palintir and ensure His orders were met.
And I certainly agree that the White Council get a special place in the film
Just a thought...
Does anybody else have reservations about the obvious clash the Bilbo/Gollum ring scene will have in the Hobbit compared to the one in LotR? Seeing as how Ian Holm is not reprising the role of Bilbo.
I'm extremely hesitant, this is why flash-backs and prequels don't work well together!
Just my ramblings for now
WOOHOO! Another Tolkien "Liberal" White Council fan on the forum!
*dances with joy*