I still dream of a Silm movie ... though the risks are great (see the so controversial LotR movie!)! 'til now, I'd say we're like the Ainur in the beginning: we know the Word, the Book, the History ... yet we've never seen them! It would be a shame that such a wonderful book never gets the chance to be visualised! Just my humble thoughts ...

Namarie!

"Heresy"?

woah! silmarillion as a movie would be infinitely spiffy, but i don't think it would be as wildly popular, and therefore not as worth a studio's investment, as the lord of the rings. i mean, making the silmarillion into a movie would be like making the decline and fall of the roman empire into a movie. yeah, the silmarillion is a fantasy, but it's much more like a history book than it is anything else. and i don't think you could have any of the people from lotr in the silmarillion, otherwise the less prepared theatergoers would get them confused with their lotr characters, wouldn't you think? but anyway, my votes are as follows:

feanor- kevin spacey
beren- vincent d'onofrio
maedros- m/b steve buschemi, but he might not have the meat to pull off the role. jack nicholson could probably tear that up.
young galadriel- leelee sobieski, although i think her facial bone structure is completely different than blanchet's.
manwe- liam neeson
varda- diane lane

and i'd have to glance through it again to see about everybody else. i think that kevin spacey would make a killer feanor, though. absolutely

Mind you, Arnie would make a great Tulkas.... "I'll be back, Melkor!"

Well, if PJ's planning to do it, i think it's better that the movie's never made.

Sean Connery, is SIX foot tall and more, hmmm kinda defeats the object of dwarf? lol

In addition, he has one accent - Scottish, and many variations being so versatile an actor he can do, Scottish-Spanish(Highlander) Scottish-Russian(Hunt for the Red October) Scottish-Period Drama; Scottish-Mediaval English (Robin Hood Prince of Weeeeeedz), Scottish-American (Untouchables). He's so Talented dontcha think?

Jon-Rhys Davies is Welsh, He has the abiltiy to shrink at will. (FACT)


Trust me i know I too am a shrinking daffodil.

All men can shrink.

Danny DeVito can't.

Puts the whole conservation of mass into perspective, doesn't it?

That's Billy Boyd.

You all know how I feel about this so lets me just say one thing.

Hey, i can't wait to enter Ross's dining room and see PJ's head hanging on the wall... together with the heads of the entire LOTR cast.

I think theyy could make the Tale of Beren and Luthien into a film..... it has all the major ingredients for a blockbusting story - strong woman, hero, love, magic, elves, bests, vampires, bad guy in black captures heroine, heroine escapes and love wins in the end. They may even have time to add bits about some of the history and also link it to Aragorn and Elrond as being descendents of these two lovers.

Well, I'll be willing to stay and watch it for a year, if it takes that long... I just wanna see it done!

The silmarillion would be one hell of a movie to pull off, i don't even know if it's possible to make that movie comprehend-able to the common audience, and yet give the story justice.

The problem is The Silmarillion's story branches off into so many different plots that it would be too hard to follow, unless you read the book...or watched it a dozen times.

DangerMouse that dude is an ill dj! But i really have to disagree with your point of view on T’rin. you said "...I'd expect better luck and a bigger heart from my fictional heroes." Remember the part where Morgoth held H’rin in thrall and cast his most loathsome corse upon him and his family? Well that is the reason why he had such everything went amiss for T’rin, and how can a mere mortal strive with the will of a fallen Vala?

and as for killing Glaurung. He accomplished, with 1 other, what Elven armies could not do... need i say more?

most importantly!!!! does anyone have any actual proof about this Silmarillion movie even existing?

I agree with L! they really shouldn't make a movie out of it, it could never meet my expectations and i'd just be disappointed. If they did make the mistake of producing one though, I know how they could do Eru. Just never have him appear in it, they can just shoot scenery shots, (example: when they are in the void before beginning of Arda, they should be invisible to the human eye.) and have him talking in the background. His voice should sound clear, fluent, deep, and soothing.

i doubt the Silmarillion would EVER be made into a movie. No hollywood director would be able to read it enough times to understand the plot enough. THink back, all of you.... to your first time (or attempt, like me) of reading the SIlmarilion. Did you remember the plot? It's not exactly a 'sticking-to-one-story-plot' is it? It would take ages to rearrange into a plot that was followeable. and then it would be hours long. It's just to great a task. AND LET'S LEAVE IT THAT WAY!!!! Now movie should be made of the SIlmarillion. We just can't trust Hollywood and all those companies to do it properly.

i disagree for a few reasons. They must have Glaurung in the movie, it would be a slap in the face to Tolkien's work not to have him. As we all know Túrin happens to be the one who slays Glaurung; to change that in the movie would be a disgrace. We've seen enough of that in the LOTR movies.
Túrin's fate is woven in with many other characters with "high senority." Túrin is the son of Húrin, and Hurin is another character who can't be missed out.

The story of The Silmarillion is over at the end of the First age (which is already too long for a movie.) All the stuff i quoted from you is called Allakabeth, and takes place in the Second Age. So It most likely wouldn't find it's way into The Silmarillion movie.

Think about this.... LOTR took 3 movies, that are an average of 3 hours a piece, and they still couldn't squeeze all the material in there. The starting year of TFOTR is 3001, the year is 3019 when the ring is destroyed and the story ends, 18 years. but 17 out of 18 years, are very very evasive, a blur. It's the year 3018 when Frodo finally sets out to destroy the ring, and it's almost exactly a full year later when it's destoyed. So the movie time scale of LOTR is basically 1 full year of middle earth. Even though the Third Age consists of 3019 years, not many major events happen for the 1st 3018 years...

Now lets consider the First Age... It's may only be 583 years long but major events, which cannot be ignored, happen threw out the whole age. So already you can see the movie being confusing, for viewers who have never read the book. Don't forget to add "The Years of the Trees" which is about as long as the First Age, even though it is less eventful.

my bad, the First Age is actually a short age only being 525 years.

Hi all,
That's a long thread, so I haven't read it all. A movie of the Silmarillion could't be done unless it was split into tons of parts (as I have seen pointed out in the posts I did read).
It could be made into a TV series with movies reserved for epic battle sections though.

Welcome to PT Psyonide! I reckon that you are right, Ithil. How on earth can you make a valar on a film? Would it be like, a shroud or flame or somehthing? Or maybe a mist? Or maybe smoke or just light or... okay now I am starting to ramble like Loni used to.

Much as I would like to see the Silmarillion as a movie, I still agree with Ithil about the movie being hardly possible. PJ is a great director, but somehow I don't exactly think he (or anyone who's human) would be able to pull the Silmarillion off. The book's just too complex, and everything would be too long to put on screen. And also, where in the world would they get good-looking enough actors and actresses to portrait the fair Elves?

Yes, exactly, Ellesar! A series would be really cool... but they'd have to guarantee it's a success or else there's no way there's gonna be a good enough budget...